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Old April 17th, 2009  
Fish Addict
 
Betta Tank Cycling Almost Done....I Hope

Okay guys the ammonia is about .10-.15ppm, the nitrite is 1.0ppm, and the nitrate is around 20 or so. When will all this clear up. I know that is good sign but not so good with fish in the tank. I just have a platy in there cycling. She was being aggressive so I saw an opportunity (a rather cruel one though)
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Old April 17th, 2009  
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Looks like you're mid cycle.
I hope you're doing daily changes with prime or stress coat+.
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Old April 17th, 2009  
Fish Master
 
An oppurtunity to what?
It isn't fair to put the platy in a cycling tank.

Last edited by Amanda; April 17th, 2009 at 11:48 AM.
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Old April 17th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
Is the platy being punished or something? That aside, you should be doing daily water changes like Lucy suggested of 50% while using stress coat+ or prime. It does sound like you are mid way through, but for me the nitrite part of the cycle took forever!
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Old April 17th, 2009  
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No The Platy Isn't Being Punished, Its Just Being My Cycle Fish. I'm Not Using Pure Ammonia and I Can't Find TSS ANYWHERE! I'm tired of talking to u gus=ys all you do is criticize my ways. no you cant put this or you cant put that or no you cant get this or no you have to use this.. BLAH BLAH BLAH!
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Old April 17th, 2009  
Fish Master
 
chase , most members hate to see fish go through the process of cycling....its very hard on them and frustrating to the owners..you can put a small piece of raw shrimp in the tank and just leave it..or you can use established media/gravel/decorations, etc from your established tank to have an instant cycle..then the platy wont have to go through the ordeal of ammonia and nitrite poisoning
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Old April 17th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
You can purchase TSS from fosters/smith (link is at the top of the page). I was unable to buy it anywhere near me as you are unable to find it.
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Old April 18th, 2009  
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Chase, half the problem is your inability to write whole sentences and explain things from your point of view. I really don't know if you are only 10 years old or if you are just too lazy to write whole sentences.

I've read many posts you write here, and in almost everyone I see half thoughts just left hanging, or you switching thoughts midsentence. It is incredibly confusing to read the stuff you write.

Also, you have to understand that there is a real problem that most new fishkeepers experience, and that is impatience. I read on a weekly basis a post by some random new keeper about whatever is wrong with their tank. They get very good advice from experienced keepers which almost always revolves around two main themes:
1) The solution takes time, patience, and detailed observation.
2) The situation should be ended immediately.

And a lot of new people have the same responce of "Well I want it my way and I want it now and i don't want to hear differently about it." Its incredibly frustrating to see people respond like that.

You have got to calm down and take peoples advice. Instead of saying that you can't do something, you have got to ask how to accomplish whatever it is you view as a reason it cannot be done the way it was suggested.

People mostly want to know of you are doing daily 50% water changes for the health of your fish and aren't attacking you for it. Not every question is an insult.

As to your question about your cycle. There is no way to know how long until a cycle is done based purely on one set of numbers. Temperature of the tank, pH, bioload, source of bacteria, and tank size all play a significant factor.

My fiance started my obsession with fishkeeping and didn't feel like doing the water changes after the 3rd day. So I took over and she was helping with the water conditioners. Turns out, she was only dosing as if our water contained only chlorine and not chloramines, so it took 3 months for her tank to cycle. I setup a 14 gallon with a fishless cycle and it took 3 weeks. Recently i had to setup a 10G temporarily to hold guppies as they grew too big for my 14G (I have about 50 guppies total due to a surprise second spawning). I used a piece of media i had wrapped around my intake on my 14 and cycled in 2 days because the bioload is way too much for that tank i had a large colony of bacteria already on the filter floss. I have a 15G that went through a silent cycle because there is a betta, 2 juvy guppies, a siamese algea eater and probably 30 plants.

So it all depends on your specific setup as to how long it will be until your are cycled.
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Old April 18th, 2009  
Fish Master
 
No one is trying to be rude, but you are posting on a forum with people who are passionate about fish. Over and over again you've gotten advice, ignored the advice and then wonder why your fish are sick, diseased or dying. We are only trying to help, but if you post and openly admit to being "cruel" to fish on a fish forum then I would only expect that you would hear something about it. Honestly I think it's heart breaking what you have repeatedly done with your fish. But they are your fish and you can do with them what you like, but please be more tackful in your post..Your last post was very rude and disrespectful to all the people who have helped, listened and walked you through your many problems.

I would suggest taking that poor fish out of that toxic tank and putting it in a established tank or finding it a home where it can live out it's life. Throw a piece of raw shrimp in the tank instead. Why use a living creature??
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Old April 18th, 2009  
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Chase, loads of people on the forum have tried to give you good advice and help you. If you don't want the advice or don't want to listen then why bother posting anything?
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Old April 19th, 2009  
Fish Addict
 
No I Do Take Your advice and it does work. All of my fish are perfectly healthy now i got no problem now.
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Old April 19th, 2009  
Fish Addict
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyrae View Post
Chase, half the problem is your inability to write whole sentences and explain things from your point of view. I really don't know if you are only 10 years old or if you are just too lazy to write whole sentences.

I've read many posts you write here, and in almost everyone I see half thoughts just left hanging, or you switching thoughts midsentence. It is incredibly confusing to read the stuff you write.

Also, you have to understand that there is a real problem that most new fishkeepers experience, and that is impatience. I read on a weekly basis a post by some random new keeper about whatever is wrong with their tank. They get very good advice from experienced keepers which almost always revolves around two main themes:
1) The solution takes time, patience, and detailed observation.
2) The situation should be ended immediately.

And a lot of new people have the same responce of "Well I want it my way and I want it now and i don't want to hear differently about it." Its incredibly frustrating to see people respond like that.

You have got to calm down and take peoples advice. Instead of saying that you can't do something, you have got to ask how to accomplish whatever it is you view as a reason it cannot be done the way it was suggested.

People mostly want to know of you are doing daily 50% water changes for the health of your fish and aren't attacking you for it. Not every question is an insult.

As to your question about your cycle. There is no way to know how long until a cycle is done based purely on one set of numbers. Temperature of the tank, pH, bioload, source of bacteria, and tank size all play a significant factor.

My fiance started my obsession with fishkeeping and didn't feel like doing the water changes after the 3rd day. So I took over and she was helping with the water conditioners. Turns out, she was only dosing as if our water contained only chlorine and not chloramines, so it took 3 months for her tank to cycle. I setup a 14 gallon with a fishless cycle and it took 3 weeks. Recently i had to setup a 10G temporarily to hold guppies as they grew too big for my 14G (I have about 50 guppies total due to a surprise second spawning). I used a piece of media i had wrapped around my intake on my 14 and cycled in 2 days because the bioload is way too much for that tank i had a large colony of bacteria already on the filter floss. I have a 15G that went through a silent cycle because there is a betta, 2 juvy guppies, a siamese algea eater and probably 30 plants.

So it all depends on your specific setup as to how long it will be until your are cycled.
I'm 14 Years old. Yes I'm a teenager. An impatient lil "WhipperSnapper" LOL Its Okay though I know how all of you feel and I know that I am Being impatient. But thats how teens are. I'll try to write more clearly in the future
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Old April 19th, 2009  
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Good move Chase as people are here to help you and other's. in answer to your question-i cycled a 20-gallon tank in 3-days-no fish just established media and gravel, live plants ect; So patience Chase and it will happen without using live fish-bella
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