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April 2nd, 2009
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Peek-A-Boo, i found upside down this morning-he is a Oranda goldie lol and very fat lol. What should i treat him with? No feeding and pea's? and he there anything else i can do-please help asap as he is my favourite goldie. bella | 
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April 2nd, 2009
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|  I'm so sorry Bella. Is he pine coned? If not, could it be swim bladder? If so, you can try feeding him bits of thawed frozen shelled pea. | |
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April 2nd, 2009
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| Yeah, Lucy it had to be Peek-but he is a big boy lol and eats too much and no Lucy he is not pined coned just upside down lol-but he can turn over to swim-but he stays on his back. at the bottom-so no food tonight lol and water change yesterday and 0-0-5 so all good.It had to be him lol like he has not been through enough with his worms lol bella | |
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April 2nd, 2009
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| Poor guy has been through a lot.
Fasting for a day or so then the peas should help him.
Good luck...keep up us posted. | |
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April 2nd, 2009
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| add to
Lucy-What is the swim bladder disease? i have not had time to look as i have people from england here and we are coming and going, and this just happened this morning lol. Lucy should i put him in a breeders box? i have one of those betta breeder things that would keep him straight up and keep him away from the food for the other guy's lol. But he is so big he won't be able to turn around lol but it will keep him up-right. bella
Last edited by shih-tzu mom; April 2nd, 2009 at 10:34 AM.
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April 2nd, 2009
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| Agabr123; i just read it and i think Lucy was right it is swim bladder disease lol and thanks for the link-so here's hoping. Do you think i should put him in a breeders box?-As he is a big boy and will not!!! be able to turn around? bella | |
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April 2nd, 2009
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| He might be better off where he is, being in a confined space like that might stress him if he can't turn around. Not to mention hurt himself. As long as he's not being picked on.
Swim bladder can be caused by several things. Poor water conditions, bacterial infection, gulping air, constipation or over eating. | |
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April 2nd, 2009
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| Lucy- i think it is the last three lol over-eating-constipation-gulping-air lol as he does all of that. I posted the wrong thing lol. It is swim bladder Lucy-right again as usuall lol. Thanks again Lucy for all your expert advise. much apprieciated and will keep you posted on his progress and thanks to-Agabr123; for the great link.And Lucy i will not put him in the breeders box-as i thought he was too big anyhow.I read were if, he does not respond to peas ect; that he has to be treated with med's lol? But i will try the fasting and peas first, and no the other goldies do not pick on him-they all get along great sleep together ect; perfect match of those-3-fish lol. and they all 6-are going into a 55-gallon as soon as it is seeded,thanks again.bella
Last edited by shih-tzu mom; April 2nd, 2009 at 11:17 AM.
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April 2nd, 2009
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| Let us know how he's doing. Good luck | |
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April 2nd, 2009
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| glad it helped  good luck! | |
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April 2nd, 2009
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| I know this is OT, but why does lol appear all over your posts? I don't think you are laughing that much, right? | |
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April 2nd, 2009
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| If, you onley knew lol. better to laugh then cry-bella
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Update on Peek-A-Boo-he is not doing so well he has begun to float up to top, but when I nudge him he turns over and swims to the bottom.I did not feed anything tonight and will not for 2-more days and then i will offer pea's. lol, he looks like he swallowed a golf ball really bad and he has no interest in food right now and he's trying to rest, usually he comes for food 24-7 when he see's me-but not tonight.As i type this he is floating to the top again-i hope he makes it. i added some vitamins to his water and some garlic-gard so maybe that will help him a little. Will update tomorrow. bella
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Something really remarkable,that i would like to share with you all- the other 2-goldies are 1-on each side of him-it's almost like they are trying to balance him so he won't float lol bella
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Another update on Peek-he is still the same and i lost his partner in crime Top-Hat to the same thing last night, he began to float and then died and he was a big boy as well Top-Hat-4/03/2009 rest in piece my sweet boy, you will be missed by me. bella
Last edited by Lucy; April 5th, 2009 at 05:00 PM.
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April 4th, 2009
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| I'm reall sorry you lost Top Hat. You give your fishies such love.
RIP Big guy. | |
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April 4th, 2009
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| i'm so sorry you lost top hat
i hope peek-a-boo pulls through! | |
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April 4th, 2009
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| Poor Peek-a-Boo | |
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April 4th, 2009
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| yeah, Red-it's really hard watching him and doing so little for him. i have taken some dalphina out to thaw and i think i will have to syringe it into him as he is totally on his back. That appears the only way to get it into him. Poor little guy is really fighting as he is a fighter and has been right from the start. Need everyone's prayer's for him now, as it will help him i'm sure. thanks Red. bella
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Hi: all, just used the syringe to give some dalphina to Peek-A-Boo and fed very slow as to not choke him as he is on his back and a little salt to relax him and i think i will have to syringe feed him the pea's lol as he is weak from not eating and also because he is floating.He took the dalphina very well as i held him in my hand upside down-he seems to be more comfortable that way, so hopefcfully he will take his pea's the same way lol. as i don't think he can turn over to eat chopped pea's so i will feed the same way.Dear Lord we need all of Fishlore's Prayer's for Peek right now and then some. bella
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A question please- a few articales i have read said that when treating swim bladder problem's to raise the heater 3-4-degree's but i have never used a heater and the water is room temp any feedback would be appreciated. thanks in advance bella
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Anybody around? no answer's here-urgent bella
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Please see dropsey post Peek seems to be worse and i lost his buddy last night from the same thing-i think bella
Last edited by Lucy; April 5th, 2009 at 04:55 PM.
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April 4th, 2009
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| if you post the dropsy link here bella, it will help for a faster response instead of making others look for it..I hope things look up sooooooooon! | |
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April 4th, 2009
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| Shawnie; i don't know how to post a link-help please bella | |
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April 4th, 2009
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| Sorry Bella but I don't know anything about dropsey. But here's the link. Dropsey Help | |
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April 4th, 2009
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| Thanks Dozey and i posted wrong it is swim bladder bella | |
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April 4th, 2009
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| Sorry I can not offer more help but it sounds like swim bladder problems can be caused from a host of different problems. Some treatable and some not. Here is a resource that I have found very helpful with diagnosing fish health problems. It does give you several courses of actions to try. Best of luck! http://animal-world.com/encyclo/fres...dder%20Disease | |
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April 4th, 2009
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| Thank's again Dozey bella
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He is the same, so i have adjusted to the fact i may lose him, he won't even try to eat the pea's. I put some epson salts in with him to help him eliminate, but so far nothing. He is floating on top and i have to put some vaseline on his tummy as it, is exposed to the air.He has been floating 3-days now and i don't know what else to do for him.I spoke with Auauqic Kindom yesterday and this guy said you may loose him, but if he survive's to feed brine shrimp, bloodsworms and lots of veggies, which he always get-but he doe's get sinking pelletts.know i'm thinking maybe it is bacterial as his water and diet are good, but he just loves to eat too much lol. This is very hurtful and sad for him and me as he has been through soo much already and he's going into a 55-gallon this week if he survive's and i was dying to see him in there, as he just loves to swim and follow me as i enter by him and stop and talk to him.Doe's anyone think the weather has anything to do with people losing fish at this time? it seems a lot of fish are dying of different things. and last year as well.I have lost 2-f-8 puff's and 1-goldie in the last couple of days all fish were perfect and just died ? wonder why? bella
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April 5th, 2009
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| SOF; calling yourexpert advise please? Will explain to you it is the golgie that survived anchor worms i need your help, please and thanks bella
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I need your help if your'e online lol,very bad it is for Peek-A-Boo the Goldie that survived anchor worms-and you gave me so much help all through it. please and thanks if you are around this guy has swim bladder and i think it is bacterial and i, and he need your help badly?it is to the point i may loose him-and he has been through soo much lol please help us.p.s. it is not my intention to center you out just to ask of your expert advise. i must explain he has swim bladder and has been at the top on his back for 3-days now.I have used aquarium salt, epson salts, and of course water change.i have used a syringe to feed dalphina and and he took that with no luck, and will not take peas.i have put vaseline on his belly that is exposed to the air-as to not cause more infection.Now i am at a stand still lol. so that is where i need your help. bella
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April 5th, 2009
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| I don't have any advice to offer since I'm not a fish expert. But I can tell you love your peke a boo very much and I'm hoping the best for the both of you. | |
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April 5th, 2009
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| shih-tsu mom,that goldie isn't have much luck. I am on it,but 1st I have a couple questions. Can you post a pic? How big is thisgoldie and how was it acting before this issue? Water parameters? when was the last time they were tested? answer these while I am getting info. | |
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April 5th, 2009
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| maybe something in your water you are unaware of? just a thought | |
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April 5th, 2009
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| Sof; i tested the water yesterday again and 0-0-5 , and he is about 4-1/2 inches long and about 1-1/2 all way round he is very swollen. And no i can't get pic's as he seems to be resting at the top on his back and gets upset if he is disturbed.He was acting a little slow, but another goldie was lost yesterday just swelled up floated to the top and died 20-min; later. SOF here is a pic i took and the black bag is charcoal that i keep in there.Before this he had just slowed down a little then on the bottom and floaed to the top and has remained there until now and is still there. I hope this pic is good enough for you to see how swollen he is.Poor baby is soo sick lol and i don't have hope for him at this point and may have to pts. if he gets any worse as he looks like he's suffering bella
Last edited by shih-tzu mom; April 5th, 2009 at 08:26 PM.
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April 5th, 2009
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| I read somewhere that Duck Weed fed to the goldie is a cure for when it's floating like that. | |
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April 5th, 2009
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| WOW,I have never seen swim bladder disorder act that fast or that lethally. Usually over a period of a few days. At this point there's not much you can do except 50% water changes daily and try to treat with garlic guard soaked peas,if Peek a boo wont eat,then you can treat with Internal Parasite Guard,swim bladder disease doesn't act that fast,but parasites will. So I am thinking it has more to do with a parasite problem,leading to bloat. I hope poor peek a boo is up to his old self soon.Good luck and keep us posted. | |
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