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Old April 19th, 2009  
Fish Helper
 
Just wanted to say hi and that i'm thinking about the both of you. I have been checking in regularly to stay caught up on this thread hoping to read that Peke is returning to normal and starting to swim.
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Old April 20th, 2009  
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Maddie;+Krist' thanks for asking about him he is not doing good but hanging in there i just wish there was a small miracle for him -that's all it would take just a small one lol bella
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Cerianthus; i phoned 3-stores and no-one carries it over here lol and he's doing not so good-i don't think he has too many more days still floating, eating very little, passing stools good and some colour to them and 1-eye closed still.this is day-16 any help would be much appreciated. bella

Last edited by Lucy; April 21st, 2009 at 08:54 PM. Reason: merging back to back posts
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Old April 20th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
You know, once I saw a thing on TV about a goldfish who had a swim bladder issue. The owner tied a piece of string around him and put a piece of styrafoam (or something else that floated) on the end of the string, to the goldie was kept from sinking.

Could Peek have a swim bladder issue that's keeping him from swimming correctly?

If you still have him supported on a net or something on the corner of the bathtub, try taking him off for a minute and see if he still floats in his side or if he can mantain his balance.
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Old April 20th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
No, Maddie; he can't swim at all that is why i have him supported in the hamock thingy i made up-i tried him again today he trys but can not stay afloat. lol he's trying though. bella
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Old April 21st, 2009  
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How's Peek doing today?
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Old April 21st, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
Hi: Lucy-no change still the same. bella
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Old April 21st, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
Wish I could assist more/better! If cooled temp, keep it cooled. It will benefit if bacterial/funfal infection but do try to keep it steady.

Would you like to try Injection of antibiotics using hypodermic syringe?

Only probelm is what antibiotic to use since can not determine what pathogen(s) are involved. And also calculating proper solution (pharmaceutical aspectS) for that body mass isnt easy anymore for me, lol!

Maybe you can research for such info online? How to prepare proper dosage and what to use for your symptoms?

Or you can even contact online Piscine Vet for more accurate info.

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Old April 21st, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
Cerianthus; ok, i will start online and i am keeping him cooled lol but he is still he same.Can't swim and he is eating not much but a little. will try anything to help him ok, i will do the reasearch thanks again, doing an injecction will not bother me i have a needle and stringe but i will try to find dosage lol, and also what prt of him to inject? thanks again bella

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Old April 21st, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
Area I used inject was near cuadal peduncle but not at. (2/3 way from gill toward the caudal peduncle).
Question is the proper dosage of What? Perhaps such info can be obtained thru AquaVet!

This is best I can do so far. Wish you luck!
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Old April 21st, 2009  
Fish Master
 
I know that you're no-where nearby Bella but I've asked them before about various fish related things. (Mixing medication, ect.) They do treat fish so it might be worth a try giving them a call. The worst they can tell you is that they can't help. If you're looking into actually trying to vaccinate ect. then they'll probably have some advice.

http://www.usask.ca/wcvm/vth/general/contact.php

Best of luck and my 3 future goldies sending the best get better vibes at Peek that they can.
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Old April 21st, 2009  
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Thanks Red;-it's getting confusing now as i am reading on flip-over disease and total different ball game lol too much reading but trying to save the little guy he is very presious[sp]to me.bella
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Old April 21st, 2009  
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I just did a quick search, looks like Flipover Disease is the same as Swim Bladder Disease.
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Old April 21st, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
Hi: Lucy, not quite but simular to it and not so easy to get rid of. Has something to do with the kidneys as well. i haven't finished reading yet as there is lots of info on it and other things and getting very confusing lol bella
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Lucy; at some point i may have to put Peek to sleep as it's coming up to 3-weeks this saturday and he has no life like this. I don't want to think about it-i will try all i can for him-but there is a point where he may be suffering and i don't want that-so far i don't think he is as yet, but i'm sure he will show me when he;s had enough.bella

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Old April 21st, 2009  
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I know bella, you two have fought a hard fight. You'll know if that's a decision you need to make. I pray you won't have to.
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Old April 21st, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
Yes, Lucy i pray i won't have to either but if it means my little guy is suffering i will have too. well enough reasearch for tonight lol, my brains are scrambled and Peek is just sleeping now so i will tend to him and see how he is in the morning. bella
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Old April 22nd, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
Little update on Peek-still the same no change for better or worse bella
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Old April 22nd, 2009  
Fish Helper
 
Thank you for keeping us posted. He must be a strong little guy. (i know he is a big guy but it sounds better lol) I REALLY hope he pulls through this.
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Old April 22nd, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
Krist; you don't know how i wish the same lol my neighbours must think i have really lost it asking Peek 'how is mommie's little man lol', if they hear me talking to him and i think that's what keeps him holding on. He responds when i talk to him by wiggling his little fins thanks Krist;-bella
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Old April 23rd, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
Just a little update on Peek-he is the same-no change and sleeping a lot now so i don't think he can hang on for too long. I guess he needs the rest but always wakes when i check on him or talk to him-poor little guy still fighting for his life. bella
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Old April 23rd, 2009  
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Old April 23rd, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
Thanks, Lucy-it's really sad lol-i was looking at his pic's last night on how happy he was to go into the 40-gallon all by himself and it's so sad to see him so happy and now bella
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Old April 23rd, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
Lucy- if your'e there-Peek gave me a very tiny little bit of a fight when i turned him a while ago- i am hoping that is a good sign lol, not much but more then he usually has been doing.Wouln't it be nice to see him recover as this is worse then a child being sick as most children can tell you what's wrong lol and he can't.It's like being on a roller coaster up and down. I am just praying for my little man and hope the Lord see's fit to leave him in my care, and have the pleasure to finish raising him. i am treating him with that indian almond leaf-i have heard lot's of good things about it, so i had ordered it about 3-days ago and it seems less invasive for him at this stage. bella
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Old April 23rd, 2009  
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I've heard good things about indian almond leaf also. I think it supposed to have soothing qualities.
My continued prayers and best wishes for you and Peek.
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Old April 23rd, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
Thanks Lucy and this leaf has got really good reviews and Pepe uses it as well, but not as a treatment i don't think-
but it's suppose to be very benifical to fish and not invasive. that is where i first found out about it. so i think it may help him some especially if he is suffering at all. bella
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Old April 23rd, 2009  
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Bless you Bella. Prayers and best wishes.
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Old April 23rd, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
Thanks Kim for your support bella
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Old April 24th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
Update; on Peek this morning- this is day-20-man this little guy is strong, still hanging in there. no real change other then he took some dalphina this morning and hungrey about it too-you would think with all this dalphina he would start to swim; but still on his back. other then a bit of a fight when i turned him last night no real change-just hoping and praying for one-bella
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Old April 24th, 2009  
Fish Master
 
Hmm is he still swollen?
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Old April 24th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
No;, Red; that is the funny thing about it. He has not been swollen in a while now. I was thinking of treating for bacterial as he seems alright every other way just on his back and 1-eye closed and can't swim lol i think it may be some kind of bacteria internal.i thought about it all night he has been treated for parisites, bacteria foods,i gave him-gel-tec and i am going to use some more of 'Jungle's bacteria food as it seems less invasive. bella
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Old April 24th, 2009  
Fish Master
 
ok... so he's not swollen anymore but he's still floating?
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