Chrisson

I went past Big Al's yesterday and found this one white ish blue guppy and had to get it but today I noticed that it has white dots on hid caudal fins! He also has one red one. Could this be ICH and fin rot? I don't have a quarantine and won't be able to afford one not even a Tupperware, filter and heater. I did a water just in case if it was ich. He is however acting completely normal and active.

What could I do? How much do I raise the temperature? Should I return it? (I hope not)

Dozey

If the white dots look like small grains of salt that is most likely ich. Slowly increase the water temperature to 83°/84° F for at least two weeks. Increase your gravel vacuums to remove spores. Pristine water will be utmost important.

As the high water temperature will reduce oxygen levels in the water an air stone would be very beneficial.

As to the “red spot”, is it a dot or a red patch?

Good luck!

Chrisson

it's a dot and the white dots are like salt, none of it is on the body though. I already raised the temperature up a bit. 2 weeks ago I said a air pump would be needed but they said it isn't... Getting the water clean is no problem because I enjoy it. ._.

Dozey

Sounds like ich to me. A picture if possible might help. If raising the temperature to 83/84°F an air stone IMO is well advised. Oxygen levels in water at this temperature is greatly diminished. I don’t want to speculate what the red dot may be at this time.

Keep an eye on the white dots and the fins. If the dots grow or the fins show signs of damage then you may be dealing with a fungus. Then consider treating with Maracyn and Maracyn 2.

agabr123

sorry to hear about your guppy

great advice from dozey though, he has you covered

Chrisson

It's really hard to get a picture because he keeps moving! there are just 2 dots. My brother might be getting a air pump for the aquarium because I proved him wrong that a air pump is eventually needed! I'd forgot to mention that my yellow and red guppies aren't infected with ich or have that red dot.

Chrisson

Wow! I checked back on the fish a few hours later and part of his body turned solid black! It doesn't look like it's a parasite but seems like it is just growing colour but I'm not sure. Part of the blackness is at the back of the fish which spreads to the dorsal and some along the snake skin pattern.

I'll get a before and after picture as soon as I can.

EDIT: The black started fading away and the red dot is gone.

2lucky

maybe the change of colour was due to the temperature change??
have the white dots gone aswell?
good luck!

Chrisson

No the white dots are getting worse and is spreading to other fins D= I have no equipment to cure him so I might have to return him.

0morrokh

Sorry about your new fish. By this time the other fish have been exposed to the parasite, so there's no point in returning him-I'd just treat the whole tank. Easiest way is to raise the temp into the 80s for 2 weeks or so.

Dozey

All you need in this case is a heater and gravel vacuum. A heater to increase the aquarium temperature to 83/84°F and a gravel vacuum to remove ich spores from the substrate. As was already mentioned if you have one fish with ich you will most likely soon have other fish with ich.

If the equipment that you don’t have is an air pump and air stone and you have a HOB filter I would suggest that you keep the water level slightly lower then normal. The “waterfall” of the HOB filter will help in providing extra aeration to the water.

Chrisson

Your right... They probably got contaminated as well although they don't show any symptoms. I'll change the water tomorrow and lower the water surface then usual. I'm starting to think that the infected fish has another disease! It's white but aren't specks and is on the pectoral fin. I'll post a pic tomorrow as well.

Dozey

OK things have perhaps changed. Ich certainly looks like grains of salt. If the spots are growing larger then that then you are more likely dealing with a fungus. If this is the case then treating with Maracyn and Maracyn 2 would be my recommendation.

A picture would be helpful but I also appreciate how difficult it can be to photograph fish. They just won’t sit still and say cheese (bettas being the exception).

Chrisson

I later figured out it is actually excessive slime. It really looked like ich but I guess not I know how to cure him now. But I have a problem, I think my yellow guppy has worms and is having trouble breathing, wont eat and having trouble swimming.

Dozey

Are you concerned about internal or external worms?

MeGustaUnaPez926

Wow, this stinks. I'm sorry, I can't help you, but I really hope they get better soon and that some other member can advise you!

Chrisson

Internal Callamunus worms I think. I see a red line on his body. He's starting to lose colour.

Dozey

I don't have personal experience with these nasty parasites but I had this page bookmarked. http://www.fishprofiles.com/files/profiles/d100000.htm

It seemed to have one of the best treatment description that I had come across.

Good luck!

agabr123

does he have red streaks on his body? it could be septicemia

Chrisson

He died today. I think it might not actually be worm because it wasn't red. I think he died from internal bleeding or septicemia on his intestines and was having trouble pooing and got stuck me think it was the worms. He's now buried in my backyard.

And the redness for my blue/white guppy came back again and it's not a dot anymore it's sort of like a blob but not exactly, I'll get a photo. Bad things happen one after the other.

agabr123

i'm sorry you lost him