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Old March 20th, 2009  
Fish Bum
 
Water Changes with Python No Spill Clean 'N Fill

I generally use 5 gallon buckets for water changes. I siphon out about 3 buckets worth and discard the water, then fill the buckets with tap water mixed with the proper amount of stress coat to remove the chlorine.

If I understand the python, it will put water straight from the tap into my aquarium. Since my water is from the public system with chlorine or chloramines, that sounds dangerous to the biological filter. I would love to simplify my weekly maintenance, but I don't want to damage the cycle.

Is there anyone using this system that can give me some advice?
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Old March 20th, 2009  
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A quick search on the forum finds many threads about the python.
Here are a couple:
Putting tap water and prime at the same time?

The Python pro's and con's.
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Old March 20th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
I use a python and I absolutely love it. The only major difference is the amount of Prime or Stress Coat that you use. When using a 5 gallon pail you only treat the 5 gallons of water in the bucket. When using a python you have to treat the entire aquarium volume.

Slightly more expensive but for me the cost/convenience factor is well worth the additional cost.
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Old March 20th, 2009  
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I SOOOOOOOOOOOOO wish I could use one...I hear and see how much easier they are than the 5 gal bucket ways ....grrrrrrrr ...Lucky peoples!!!!!!!!!!
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Old March 20th, 2009  
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I SOOOOOOOOOOOOO wish I could use one...I hear and see how much easier they are than the 5 gal bucket ways ....grrrrrrrr ...Lucky peoples!!!!!!!!!!
Why can't you use a python Shawnie?
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Old March 20th, 2009  
Fish Bum
 
Ok, now I understand. I think I might get a python then. And a couple of bottles of stress coat or prime! Thanks!
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Old March 20th, 2009  
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Ok, now I understand. I think I might get a python then. And a couple of bottles of stress coat or prime! Thanks!
You won’t regret it… And your back will thank you for it.
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Old March 20th, 2009  
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Why can't you use a python Shawnie?
we have been re doing the house and the bf has all these fancy decorated type faucets (hard to explain ) but no matter what I try, even taking off the end of each faucet, I cant get the end of the python to fit...
heres an example of my kitchen sink 0507class_faucet.jpg and here is an example of my bathroom brushed-nickel-bath-faucet-280x313.jpg...other than hooking it up outside to the spickets(which it does fit!!) and using cold cold water, im not sure what else I can do to be able to use mine any suggestions dozey?


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You won’t regret it… And your back will thank you for it.
mines already shot but I continue with the buckets as thats what we do as responsible fish owners!! (changing 50% every day of a 75 gal cycling with fish just about did me in !!)
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Old March 20th, 2009  
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we have been re doing the house and the bf has all these fancy decorated type faucets (hard to explain ) but no matter what I try, even taking off the end of each faucet, I cant get the end of the python to fit...
heres an example of my kitchen sink Attachment 25320 and here is an example of my bathroom Attachment 25321...other than hooking it up outside to the spickets(which it does fit!!) and using cold cold water, im not sure what else I can do to be able to use mine any suggestions dozey?


mines already shot but I continue with the buckets as thats what we do as responsible fish owners!! (changing 50% every day of a 75 gal cycling with fish just about did me in !!)
OH I can so relate. I broke my back 20 years ago and the bucket brigade was killing me until I got the python. Nice faucets but I can see why the python won’t hook up. But I do in fact have a suggestion. Your shower head has the same thread type as any standard faucet. Sure you would have to close the shower door/curtain but it would work.

I’m actually considering switching mine to the shower head. My kitchen sink is a bit slow to drain and I’m always concerned about it overflowing. Since my largest tank is only 35 gallons there would be no risk of my tub overflowing.

Picture of standard shower head threads...
showerhead.jpg
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Old March 20th, 2009  
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we have been re doing the house and the bf has all these fancy decorated type faucets (hard to explain ) but no matter what I try, even taking off the end of each faucet, I cant get the end of the python to fit...
I thought someone mentioned in one of the other threads that you can buy an adapter at one of the big chain home improvement stores.
Possibly take off the fancier faucet, attached a regular one that fits the python for water changes, then switch back. Just a thought.
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Old March 20th, 2009  
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Yes, Shawnie; you can, plus they have a lot of different adapters that come with lol and you can buy at Home Depot lol, if the ones that come with -doesn't fit.-hope this helps and Lucy was right as usual lol she did hear it bella

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Old March 20th, 2009  
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I thought someone mentioned in one of the other threads that you can buy an adapter at one of the big chain home improvement stores.
Possibly take off the fancier faucet, attached a regular one that fits the python for water changes, then switch back. Just a thought.
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Yes, Shawnie; you can, plus they have a lot of different adapters that come with lol and you can buy at Home Depot lol, if the ones that come with -doesn't fit.-hope this helps and Lucy was right as usual lol she did hear it bella
You certainly can buy a whole host of different attachments for faucets. But some of these new fancy faucet can be really proprietor and can also be very difficult to remove the air raider. I certainly wouldn’t want to scratch up a very decorative and expensive faucet messing around with the air raider. But yes, likely there is an adaptor out there that would work.
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Old March 20th, 2009  
Fish Master
 
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMGGGGGGGGGGGGGOSH why didnt I think of the shower head!!!>>>? im forever indebted dozey if that will work LOLOLOL ....ill check it out tonite as its the 75 gals turn for a clean up....lucy and belle, these sinks are funky and have a hose type thingy ...so hard to explain but ive so tried to see if you can remove something to put an attachment on it
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Old March 20th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
Shawnie-try for the bathroom lol that would be the place rather then damage your new taps, but i know for sure there is all different kinds of attachments for them so here's hoping for you .You might even find one at your LFS-but not cost effective lol good luck and keep us posted, you won't be sorry with 75-gallons bella
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Old March 20th, 2009  
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMGGGGGGGGGGGGGOSH why didnt I think of the shower head!!!>>>? im forever indebted dozey if that will work LOLOLOL ....ill check it out tonite as its the 75 gals turn for a clean up....lucy and belle, these sinks are funky and have a hose type thingy ...so hard to explain but ive so tried to see if you can remove something to put an attachment on it
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Old March 20th, 2009  
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no laughing and I mean it!!
BUT.................... the um man that I love with all my heart, and that has given me a great life and adapted to my obsessive fish addiction, THREW OUT MY PYTHON because it didnt fit our faucets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! why the heck didnt we think of the shower head grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
im going for a really strong double in the kitchen!! (now after an hour and half of hauling 5 gal buckets to clean my 75 gal again!!)
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Old March 20th, 2009  
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Wait till he has to do 'his' tank. You'll have a new python in no time.
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Old March 20th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
He threw out your python… Well that’s worth a weekend in Niagara Falls and some serious sucking up.
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Old March 20th, 2009  
Fish Master
 
hahahaah I do all the tanks because he pays for all the expenses...so im outta luck there!! I do like the Niagara falls idea tho..but at this point, ill take FLA instead!! (im so frustrated he threw it out still!!!!!)
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Old March 20th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
DOH I should have thought… Who the heck wants to be in Niagara this time of year? Other then the great wines its cold! Florida is a much better idea!

Oops, did we hi-jack a thread To the original poster you should do daily wine changes while in Florida. Gees does that sound right?
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Old March 20th, 2009  
Fish Addict
 
i use my python to suck it out, but gallon jugs to put it back in. and treat each gallon every time.
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Old March 20th, 2009  
Fish Bum
 
I was real nervous about the Python filling the tank at first. But, I test after each filling and the prime put in the tank as I'm adding water is doing its job. I used buckets for a while. After you've used a Python a few times, you'll torch the buckets.

But, there are some things to be prepared for. The first time I used it I opened the check valve with water pressure on and the hose aimed without regard for what I was pointing it at. If you ever need a way to bathe a Sheltie quickly, I'd check this out.

Second time, I avoided the dog but didn't learn my lesson and it was pointed to the couch. I'm sure you can guess.

Third time, all was well. It's a wonderful tool. Use with a sense of humor

Mike
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Old March 20th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
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I was real nervous about the Python filling the tank at first. But, I test after each filling and the prime put in the tank as I'm adding water is doing its job. I used buckets for a while. After you've used a Python a few times, you'll torch the buckets.

But, there are some things to be prepared for. The first time I used it I opened the check valve with water pressure on and the hose aimed without regard for what I was pointing it at. If you ever need a way to bathe a Sheltie quickly, I'd check this out.

Second time, I avoided the dog but didn't learn my lesson and it was pointed to the couch. I'm sure you can guess.

Third time, all was well. It's a wonderful tool. Use with a sense of humor

Mike


I didn’t soak the dog, the cat or the couch but I can definitely say a few of my gilled friends were a little less then impressed with my performance on my first attempt. Well alright my first few attempts. Opening the valve is certainly up there with turning on a fire hose.
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Old April 6th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
OH MY!!!! I am SOOOOOOOOO glad that I found this thread!!!! THANK YOU!!!!!
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Old April 6th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
Joe,
I have the same concerns about losing my cycle filling my tank with a hose. The python is so expensive too.

Dozey,
Just a thought that occurred to me about the shower head. Would you have to put new teflon tape on the shower head each time you took it off to do a water change?

Shawne,
I see your problem with your faucets. Do you have a laundry tub? That faucet would be threaded. BTW do you mind me asking why you have to do daily water changes on your 75 gallon. That would seriously kill me I think. lol
He threw it out? My hubby would be toast after that one lol
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Old April 6th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
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Dozey,
Just a thought that occurred to me about the shower head. Would you have to put new teflon tape on the shower head each time you took it off to do a water change?
If you have a decent gasket in your shower head you really shouldn't need teflon tape. I don't use any on my shower head. You might want to keep a few spare gaskets on hand as removing and reattaching the shower head certainly will wear out your gaskets more often then under normal use.
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Old April 29th, 2009  
Fish Bum
 
I have actually been thinking along these lines myself (with the shower that is) I think I might try to use one of those Y things that attach to your outside faucet. Then just mount the shower head on one and the "python" on the other and just use the diverters to manipulate the flow of water from the shower head to the python. If you have the room in the shower you may even be able to leave it hooked up permanently and just coil it up and hang it on a hook...at least those are thoughts that have been going through my own mind.
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Old April 29th, 2009  
Fish Bum
 
Besides the problem with actually attaching the hose and creating the vacuum, i thought that chlorine killed the good bacteria.....so how is it ok to put untreated water into the tank? even if it is treated after.
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Old April 29th, 2009  
Fish Helper
 
I have been using a python and going straight into the tank with it and it hasnt done anything to my cycle at all.

I do like the others have been doing and put a whole tanks worth of prime (enough to treat 55 gallons) in while I am adding the tap water and it works great. I never have to removed the hose from the tank and never get more than a couple of drips of water on the floor doing it this way.

Harry
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Old April 29th, 2009  
Fish Helper
 
OOOPS I don't understand why you have to treat the whole tank if you use the python. I just put enough Stress Coat in my tank to match the amount of water I take from the tank. Am I to understand you have to put enough in to treat the whole 55 gal tank? I have not been treating the whole tank but fish all are doing well. I have used the python the last three weeks. Should I add more stress coat now or wait till I clean my tank next week. I usually take a third of the water out each week and add more. I guess I didn't read up on the python enough before using. But I do love it.
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