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Old March 1st, 2009  
Fish Bum
 
What about heating???

I just put my hand into my tank to fix something and the water was cold! room temp... around 12-16c... I have heater... after 3-4 minutes water temp was at 25-26 but.. how fish handle with those parameters? Should i do something?

My heater is Jager for 60ltr tank. 50w!

Go for bigger heater?
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Old March 1st, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
if it was at 12-16, then 26, they would die. if there's something wrong with the heater , maybe you should get another one.
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Old March 1st, 2009  
Fish Bum
 
I dont know the numbers for sure... I am sure that this heater CANOT keep the temp steady!
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Old March 1st, 2009  
Fish Mentor
 
what heater are you using?

Never mind I saw you put that in your first post, lol!!!
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Old March 1st, 2009  
Fish Helper
 
you should get a bigger heater to help stabilize the temp itf not they would probably die
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Old March 1st, 2009  
Fish Bum
 
more money in the aquarium still no fish in... :/
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Old March 1st, 2009  
Fish Helper
 
ya but its worth it.
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Old March 1st, 2009  
Moderator
 
I'm not sure I understand your post.....is the water 12-16 or 26? Is the heater fluctuating on it's own? If it was 12-16, did you adjust it so it would reach 26?
What temp is the heater set at? How long has it been in the tank?

I use 50W visit-therm stealths in my 5's and 10's.
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Old March 2nd, 2009  
Fish Bum
 
Lucy. The heater some times do auto-shutoff... that brings the temp down to 12-16... When its on again I have 26.
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Old March 2nd, 2009  
Moderator
 
Stealth heaters work for me. They are black and easy to hide. I use 2 250 watt but my tank is 155 gallon. The ones I have seem to be very accurate. You may want to increase your watts a bit and possibly add a second one (for back up) If one quits working then you have the 2nd to fall back on.
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Old March 2nd, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
I'm kinda confused it sounds like the temp goes up and down in a matter of minutes and that shouldn't happen in a large tank. Even turning the heater down it should not go down that fast and then pop back up when the heater comes on....are you sure it is going down that far?? 2-3 degrees is more likely. Heaters will cycle on and off as a way to keep the temp steady...good luck.
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Old March 2nd, 2009  
Fish Helper
 
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Originally Posted by Fishies-for-me View Post
I'm kinda confused it sounds like the temp goes up and down in a matter of minutes and that shouldn't happen in a large tank. Even turning the heater down it should not go down that fast and then pop back up when the heater comes on....are you sure it is going down that far?? 2-3 degrees is more likely. Heaters will cycle on and off as a way to keep the temp steady...good luck.
With the temperature flucuating that fast, im wondering what he is using for a thermometer? I haven't really heard of these being faulty but I guess there is a first time for everything. Moreso if its a digital thermometer. I can see those numbers jumping around moreso than the old conventional types.

I have 2. A stick-on as well as a glass thermometer. Both in different depths of the tank.
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Old March 2nd, 2009  
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Lucy. The heater some times do auto-shutoff... that brings the temp down to 12-16... When its on again I have 26.
It would be a good idea to replace it and increase the wattage.
If the heater is set at 26C it should sense a temp drop before the water goes down as far as 12-16C
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Old March 2nd, 2009  
Fish Bum
 
I dont use a thermometer guys.. I dont have heating in the room and I can see big difference in the water temperature with my hand. I am not sure that is 12-16c but its MUTCH lower than 26c...
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Old March 2nd, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
With all respect, if you don't use a thermometer is there a reason are you blind?
If not then you need a thermometer otherwise how can you possibly know what you are talking about. You have to know to make a judgment otherwise your just guessing. Get a cheap $2 thermometer, take some reading and let us know what you know.

Last edited by CWO4GUNNER; March 2nd, 2009 at 01:19 PM.
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Old March 2nd, 2009  
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I dont use a thermometer guys.. I dont have heating in the room and I can see big difference in the water temperature with my hand. I am not sure that is 12-16c but its MUTCH lower than 26c...
Oy!

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With all respect, if you don't use a thermometer is there a reason are you blind?
If not then you need a thermometer otherwise how can you possibly know what you are talking about. You have to know to make a judgment otherwise your just guessing. Get a cheap $2 thermometer, take some reading and let us know what you know.
I agree....how can you tell what the degree is without a thermometer?
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Old March 2nd, 2009  
Fish Bum
 
there is big diference in the temp... the one is allmost hot and the other is freaking cold!

Does it matter if its not 12 and its like 15 or 8 or 20 ? ITS COLD ! no offence taken!
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Old March 2nd, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
The temperature of the aquarium is critical allot like a doctor taking your temperature so of course it matters whether the doctor says your temperature is 98.6F or 108F or if he tells you by feel your hotter then the room, that's guessing not a good thing.
Tropical fish need 74F-79F. Just like you, too cold and they get sick and die fast, too hot and they die slowly but they die. To much up and down and they get sick and die, its that simple.

Last edited by CWO4GUNNER; March 2nd, 2009 at 02:00 PM.
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Old March 2nd, 2009  
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Does it matter if its not 12 and its like 15 or 8 or 20 ? ITS COLD ! no offence taken!
Yes it does matter. The members have taken their time to try and help you.
Leaving our pertinent information...such as "I don't have a thermometer and I am guessing at the temp" may have changed the suggestions the members, who took the time to help you, might have given.
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Old March 2nd, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
A thermometer costs about $2.00 it makes no sence to me to sink a $100.00 into a aquarium setup and then stock it with more $$'s in the way of fish and not invest in a $2.00 thermometer. You really need one as changes over just a couple of degrees an hour will kill your fish.
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Old March 2nd, 2009  
Fish Helper
 
agreed with above, they are extremly important, i have 3 in my 140 l tank, two internal and one stick on and they cost me under £5. guess work is no good to anyone especially not your fish
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Old March 2nd, 2009  
Fish Master
 
a thermometer is really important, i was shocked originally at how cold 78F felt to me when i first started fishkeeping, i tested it with three different thermometers before i believed that that was the correct temp

eventually you'll be able to stick your hand in the water and tell if it's at the right temperature, but for now i'd go with a thermometer
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