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Old January 27th, 2009  
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Last year meaning, 31st/12/2008?, what about old stock at shops will that be replaced or just discounted to get rid of ?
have no clue on the exact date LOL ...was just told about a year ago...and have not a clue what the shops will do guess you would have to ask them
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Old January 27th, 2009  
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Im happy with my prime haha, i got a bottle of ammo-lock on hand though for just in case emergencies.
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Old January 27th, 2009  
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IMO I would only stick with the stress coat+ but sometimes thats not as available as ammo lock...

Mike...up until last year, thats what it did do...it now evidently is refomatted to keep the ammonia available for the cycle process but make it non toxic for the fish
YOur right...It's not available here at all..I wish it were. It's good to know anyway for emergencies...I never know when I'll be getting a surprise fish.
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Old January 27th, 2009  
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YOur right...It's not available here at all..I wish it were. It's good to know anyway for emergencies...I never know when I'll be getting a surprise fish.
since stress coat+ became available , and does so much more than the original stress coat, I buy it by the gallon so ive dropped prime all together...ive never used ammo lock but its nice to know you can if the other isnt available
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Old January 27th, 2009  
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That's what I need to do is buy the stress coat plus by the gallon...Actually I went through my fosterandsmith catalog the other day and circled everything I "needed'...It only came to about $300.00...lol...I will do that though especially when this 125 is stocked ...I'll be going through it like crazy.
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Old January 27th, 2009  
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I certainly don’t want to rain on anyone’s parade but I did notice that no one has been able to supply a link detailing the reformulation of ammo-lock. Just suggesting you might not want to throw away that bottle of Prime too soon.
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Old January 27th, 2009  
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I certainly don’t want to rain on anyone’s parade but I did notice that no one has been able to supply a link detailing the reformulation of ammo-lock. Just suggesting you might not want to throw away that bottle of Prime too soon.
Possible suggestion/concern/rant


1-800-847-0659 API number
http://aquariumpharm.com/Products/Pr...x?ProductID=45 link

Last edited by Shawnie; January 27th, 2009 at 07:42 PM.
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Old January 27th, 2009  
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Ammo-Lock
It doesn't say anything about heavy metals.
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I certainly don’t want to rain on anyone’s parade but I did notice that no one has been able to supply a link detailing the reformulation of ammo-lock. Just suggesting you might not want to throw away that bottle of Prime too soon.
Linked to their website above
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Old January 27th, 2009  
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Well see how easy that was
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Old January 27th, 2009  
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Well see how easy that was
ill be grounded im sure! LOL
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Old January 27th, 2009  
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Stress coat + does say it "detoxifies heavy metals".
It just says it "removes chlorine chloromines and Ammonia"
sounds like API needs to get better bottle designers!
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Old January 27th, 2009  
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Stress coat + does say it "detoxifies heavy metals".
It just says it "removes chlorine chloromines and Ammonia"
sounds like API needs to get better bottle designers!
it does all that we know ..it was the ammo lock we didnt know about
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Old January 28th, 2009  
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Strange, a few weeks ago i had a ammonia problem and my LFS told me that ammolock will not remove the ammonia but "lock" it in. He also told me its used for if you want to rapidly drop ammonia levels.


I just found this article and im going to read it now, if anyone would like to check it out there it is:
http://www.articlesbase.com/pets-art...re-132946.html
Good read, Mike. I followed some other links this article suggested as well- I am going to have to get my old chem, bio-chem, and organic textbooks out in order to sort some of this stuff out, though! Thanks!
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Old January 29th, 2009  
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Apparently news travels slow in the aquarium community. Apparently API began testing of their new ammo-lock formula in 1990 and released the new formula in 1996. OH well… better late then never I guess.
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Old January 30th, 2009  
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Apparently news travels slow in the aquarium community. Apparently API began testing of their new ammo-lock formula in 1990 and released the new formula in 1996. OH well… better late then never I guess.
Come again? What formula are you talking about? Your saying the formula we're being told is new from 2008 isn't really new?

I'm lost.
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Old January 30th, 2009  
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That would be the same formula. API had the University of Georgia, School of Veterinary Medicine, Department of Medical Microbiology conduct the studies and those studies were concluded in early 1996 and apparently the current formula was released in late 1996.
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Old January 30th, 2009  
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That would be the same formula. API had the University of Georgia, School of Veterinary Medicine, Department of Medical Microbiology conduct the studies and those studies were concluded in early 1996 and apparently the current formula was released in late 1996.
Interesting, im surprised during that period no one would have caught on it or at least from what i have seen other forums/question boards views on ammo-lock are similar to those on fish lore.
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Old January 30th, 2009  
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im hard to believe words ..even a few different ppl....im the "why fix it if it isnt broke" kinda person...not saying ammo lock doesnt do as they say and does keep the ammonia availble for the cycle , who cares when it was done as long as we know now, but im not trusting it and im sticking with my stresscoat+ as its never failed me and its cheap by the gallon and does MANY things most of us need in a tank ...ive also dumped prime and just use the stress coat+ only ...hahah
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