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Old January 19th, 2009  
Fish Helper
 
Oh god, Not fully cycled!!!!!!

I have all the fish listed in blue in a 30 gallon tank, and I just found out that I have 0 nitrate, 0 nitrite, and .25 ammonia. The fish are doing fine, but I want to know how long it will be until the Nitrite starts to come up. ayway of speeding this up
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Old January 19th, 2009  
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will someone help?
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Old January 19th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
Start changing your water out everyday by 50%. This will help your fish survive the cycle. Also you could use AmmoLock to instantly detoxifies ammonia. Follow the directions on the bottle.
If you don't already have a test for checking your water you need to pick one up. You will need to test each day to see if your ammonia is gone. This is all very basic, I sure someone will see this post and elaborate more. Good luck, hope your guys make it.
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Old January 19th, 2009  
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It can take up to 8 weeks. First your ammonia will build to higher levels. Then you will start to get nitrite readings and your ammonia levels starts to fall. Whenever you start to get nitrate readings and your nitrite and ammonia readings drop that means you are closed to being cycled. Follow the instructions given by Jess and you should be fine.
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Old January 19th, 2009  
Fish Helper
 
but if I try to take the ammonia out, wont it never turn into nitrite? and I cant test it everyday. those strips are expensive, and I dont have much money
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Old January 19th, 2009  
Fish Mentor
 
you can either do the 50% daily water changes with an ammonia detoxifying agent (I recomend prime instead of ammolock, since it detoxifies nitrites as well) until the tank cycles, (which will take a while), or use a product called "tetra safe start" which will pretty much have you cycled almost instantly, or within a few days.

if you dont do either of those two the fish may die, as you seem to be only in the begining of your cycle.

good luck.

Ps. You dont have to test it everyday if you are doing either one of the processes I described. And yes, if you take out the ammonia it will take longer but if you dont your fish will begin to die.
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Old January 19th, 2009  
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what about the product, stress zyme?
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Old January 19th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
Your best bet is daily 50% water changes, and I would use Prime instead of AmmoLock. Prime will detoxify the ammonia so it isn't dangerous for the fish for 24 hrs and will still allow it to be available for the bacteria to feed on it. If Prime is not available, Stress Coat + is also good. Just make sure it is the + version.
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Old January 19th, 2009  
Fish Helper
 
I have stress zyme and stress coat, how many days should i use it, everyday or every other day.
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Old January 19th, 2009  
Fish Mentor
 
Stress zyme will "speed up" the proccess, but will not do it significantly. Your fish will still be exposed to high levels of nitrite or ammonia.

Tetra Safe Start is the only product that will do it in a week or less. That, or daily water changes for a good 4-8 weeks with or without stress zyme.
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Old January 19th, 2009  
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will someone help?
Sometimes you have to be a little patient for the right members to come along who can answer your question.

Jess answered in 9 minutes of your original post
4 responses in 16 minutes is pretty good.
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Old January 19th, 2009  
Fish Helper
 
ok, I wont be able to go to the pet store in a long time, so I will change the water daily for awhile.
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Old January 19th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
You still need to invest in a good test kit. Not the strips. They aren't very accurate.
Remember you've already invested in your tank and your fish. This is the last piece to help you get the information to make it all work. Otherwise your just guessing. . .
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Old January 19th, 2009  
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Prime, StressCoat+, AmQuel+, and Ultimate are all equivalent products (there's another one, though I can't remember what it's called).

You asked if there was a way to speed things up. Yes, there is. There are actually two good ways. The first is the product called Tetra Safestart. This is one of very few products that actually speeds the cycle of the tank. I would not trust any other "cycle" product.
The other method is to take used filter media, frilly plants (real or fake), or gravel from another aquarium and put them in your own. Make sure they stay wet (in a baggy of aquarium water). If you get filter media, jury rig it so you can fit it in your own filter (I usually just tuck it in the space in the back of the filter. If you get frilly plants, put them in front of the filter output. If you get gravel, put it in a nylon stocking and hang it somewhere near the filter output. Any of these will transport a large amount of nitrifying bacteria to your aquarium. Leave them there for a month or so (even after your water is coming up with no ammonia or nitrites), and then you can pull them out.

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You still need to invest in a good test kit. Not the strips. They aren't very accurate.
Aside from that, in the long run, they aren't cost-effective. They seem cheaper when you're looking at the $8 bottle versus the $20 API test kit, but that's usually for 25 tests, while the API kit does a hundred or more tests.

Last edited by sirdarksol; January 19th, 2009 at 01:48 PM. Reason: merging back to back posts
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Old January 19th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
Ahh, nice reply sirdarksol. Of course I forgot to add the seeded start.
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Old January 19th, 2009  
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Ahh, nice reply sirdarksol. Of course I forgot to add the seeded start.
Thanks. You've been doing a good job, yourself.
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Old January 19th, 2009  
Fish Helper
 
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Thanks. You've been doing a good job, yourself.
Moderator Jess, here we come!
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Old January 19th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
Blushing. . .ahh such flattery.
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