Vahida1

Hi there all,

I got my tank running December 19, 2008. Ran tank with stress coat prepacket and stress zyme pre packet for 2 days.
On sunday I purchased 3 goldies. that when
ammonia was high For a while
nitrite was slowly creaping.

In meantime my 1 goldy got ick cured the tank with super ick cure.
looks that its cured.

When i did reading after ick.

Ammonia dropped to 0 and NirtIte at 10, nitrate 80, pH 7.

After all this i cleaned the tank walls algae scrubber plants and siphoned due to ick cured.

In the meantime ammonia was rising again and NirIte still at 10 wont drop.
i have been changing about 15% water everyday because I dont want them to die and my water is cloudy.

Now on day 21
Cleaned tank
replace the cartrige to power filter with a new One.

Reading after 2 hours of cleaning.
Ammonia 1.0
NitrAte 80
NitrIte 10
PH 6.8
KH 0
GH 30
I need help am I doing something wrong.


should i have left the filter cartridge ?
should i change the water daily ?


whats next and when will the cycle be complete or where my reads after ick wrong of ammonia




from each bottle (liquid Test) showed 0 about 3 days ago.

AlyeskaGirl

Did you do any water changes while your tank was cycling? Oh, yes you have been doin changes, lol!! yeah, I just read below what they said and I had to run from the comp for a min, didn't have a chance to give u my 2 cents. What they said. Best of luck....

capekate

Hello and welcome to fishlore
There are a couple of reasons for the change in your water test. First would be of course, the tank is not cycled yet. When you changed your filter cartridge you lost beneficial bacteria that is needed to help cycle the tank. Also, doing the super cleaning that you did, also disturbed bacteria that was growing on the gravel, decorations and artificial plants.
Its a good idea to continue with the water changes, but up it to 50% daily. Your readings are very toxic at this point. I would also suggest, using the Prime product with each water change to detoxify your ammonia, nitrite and nitrate.
best of luck with your tank.

Vahida1

i have the old filter should i put that one back in

Vahida1

i have the old filter should i just put it back in, and also daily water changes are ok

AlyeskaGirl

Yes, daily water changes are ok until you get your readings down to safe, and then you do a 25% water change weekly with gravel vac to suckup the fish waste and uneatten food that is what causes ammonia.

Vahida1

but does this mean my cycle will have to start all over again.
and a question as i was surfing the net. the aueon filter cartridge does that have iondeed have to be changed evey 4-6 weeks or is that a thing for manufactures to make money offf the product or do i just rinse in water and put back in:?help thanks any info will help me right know?
and by when should my ammonia drop and nitrites drop and nitrates form.

Vahida1

should i put the old filter back its in a ziploc bag help..

sirdarksol

If it was my tank, I would put the old cartridge back in.
Most of us around here don't change our filter media until it is falling apart, and when we do, we only change half of it (most filters have at least two pieces of media).

Welcome to Fishlore!

dennis

If what i read was correct, If you really have to change your filter, make sure you put the old one in the tank and hide it somewhere. This can speed up your cycling process.

Vahida1

how long b 4 my readins go down no one has answered these questions?
but does this mean my cycle will have to start all over again.
and a question as i was surfing the net. the aueon filter cartridge does that have iondeed have to be changed evey 4-6 weeks or is that a thing for manufactures to make money offf the product or do i just rinse in water and put back in:?help thanks any info will help me right know?
and by when should my ammonia drop and nitrites drop and nitrates form.

AlyeskaGirl

I rinse mine out, but I have 3 pieces of media; foam sponge, carbon and bio rocks (they are specifically for growing bacteria colonies). in my filter, in the bucket of water from the tank when I am doin a water change. But not everytime....usually just the sponge. Only the carbon needs to be change at least once a month.

AlyeskaGirl

The cycle can take up to 6 weeks.....you have to be patient. Until then u test daily, and do water changes until you get your nitrites drop to 0 and nitrates form, but still may need to do daily water changes if your nitrates are high to get a safe reading. Just keep testing! good luck!

Vahida1

i have the Aqueon Power filter 10 Its the hang on back all it has thats removable is a cartridge , the bioholster and the parts are all to . no foam ..
also I put the old cardtrige back ? my water is alittle cloudy i added a few drops per instructions on back of the aqua-clear is this okay

Vahida1

i replaced the old cartridge and water is a little cloudy added the aqua-clear per bottle instructions. should i do a 50% water change tomorrow if water is high.

also can i place water in the aquaruim straight out of the tap with conditions in (same temputure as tank water) within 1 hour or 2?

AlyeskaGirl

I also have a tank, my 50 gal that I got for a early x-mas gift the end of Nov. My tank water was slightly cloudy so I upgraded to a bigger filter and that fixed my cloudy water prob. But i still have the previous filter runnin still due to the fact that I dont want to upset the biological filtration. Will take off old filter in a month or so. What I'm gettin as is that u dont need chemicals to fix everything. U might just need a bigger filter. You cant have enough filtration unless some fish dont like the stronger current.

Yeah, I would do a 50% water change if its high or a 25% if its not too high. dont disturb the gravel or filter media. Cause they need to buildup the good bacteria at this point. If there is uneaten food u see layin on the bottom then try to suck that up gently.

I take the tap water, same temp and put straight into my tank but add stress coat while bucket fillin up. And I've never had any probs.

Vahida1

Hi there all,

I got my tank running December 19, 2008. Ran tank with stress coat prepacket and stress zyme pre packet for 2 days.
On sunday I purchased 3 goldies. that when
Ammonia was high For a while
NiTRITE was slowly creaping.

In meantime my 1 goldy got ick cured the tank with super ick cure.
looks that its cured.

When i did reading after ick.

Ammonia dropped to 0 and NirtIte at 10, NitrAte 80, PH 7.

After all this i cleaned the tank walls algae scrubber plants and siphoned due to ick cured.

In the meantime ammonia was rising again and NirIte still at 10 wont drop.
i have been changing about 15% water everyday because I dont want them to die and my water is cloudy.

Now on day 21
replace the cartrige to power filter with a new One.
was advised i shouldnt and put the old one back in due to the beneficail bacteria

Reading after 2 hours of cleaning.
Ammonia 1.0
NitrAte 80
NitrIte 10
PH 6.8
KH 0
GH 30
I need help am I doing something wrong.


should i change the water daily ?
whats next?
when will the cycle be complete or when will my reads go down?



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i replaced the old cartridge and water is a little cloudy added the aqua-clear per bottle instructions. should i do a 50% water change tomorrow if water is high ammonia /nitrite

also *** can i place water in the aquaruim straight out of the tap with conditions in if its the (same tempature as tank water) 75 degrees within 1 hour or 2?

capekate

Hello
You will have to keep up those 50% water changes daily regardless. Your levels are much too high at the moment. Your tank probably got a little cloudy from the gunk that is in the filter when you put it back into the filter box and some spilled out, which will happen. Im sure your filter will take care of it within 24 hours.

Vahida1

as i am a newbie on this where does my cycle stand at this point of nitrogen cycle?

angelfish220

Yes continue doing waterchanges, but as gross as it may look I wouldn't vacuum the gravel. I think the gravel vac, then the filter change just sent it over the edge and now your cycle has to restart.

Really the cycle will be complete when there is 0 ammonia 0 nitrite and 5-10 nitrate. This could take a week, or a month. You really can't set a date.

As advised before, I wouldn't change the filter pad.

capekate

Well, from what I have read from your posts above, I would say once your nitrite level starts to drop off and your nitrate raises some more you will be at the ending part of the cycle. Since your nitrIte is so high I would say that you are on your way. Your nitrIte has made the 'spike' that we look for. I cannot say for sure when your cycle will be done tho.
I do understand that when the nitrite starts to drop off it is likely to be at least another week, two at the most. So watch for your ammonia to go to zero, and your nitrIte's drop, finally to zero and your nitrAtes will raise, then you will be at the end of your cycle.
Hope that helps...

Vahida1

i add stress coat how much per gallon as instructions on tube?
and also add drops according to how much water im replacing?

capekate

Hi Vahida
I have merged your new thread with the original, as you are asking the same questions and its a lot easier and less confusing for others to respond to your question in one thread instead of making repeat replies in each.
~ kate

Vahida1

also for the future on my aqueon power filter 10. Am i suppose to change that filter every 4-6 weeks as power filer says or do i just change when it becomes worn out?
(read something earlier about not changing it dont understand)

Vahida1

dont get the forum where am i suppose to reply?

capekate

You really do not have to change out the filter media every 4-6 weeks. All you need to do is take it out and rinse it in used tank water that you have left over from emptying the tank during a water change. Rinse it around alittle, it will get any gunk out and then replace it, you dont have to buy more.

You are replying in the right place. You started a new thread called" Please help, stalled nitrogen cycle". I merged that thread into this one, so that others would have one place to reply and give you advice. No sense repeating the same answers in two different threads.That only makes it confusing and duplicate answers.
Now both threads are merged and folks can answer in one place instead of two different places.

Bedraggled

It sounds like you are doing fine. It just takes time for the tank to cycle. Keep up on the daily water changes to reduce the ammonia and nitrite in your tank. Add a water conditioner that removes chlorine and chloramine to the water you are putting into your tank. Keep testing your water. You will know when your tank is fully cycled when your ammonia and nitrite readings are at zero and you are showing positive nitrates. Your cycle is not starting all over, it is just continuing to go through the cycle. It just takes time and patience. Sounds like you are doing a good job.

Vahida1

did a 25% water change and added stress coat will run water test tomorrow

Vahida1

any advice for my next step!

Vahida1

did my water change 24 hours later these are my results its 26 day of tank running

NitrAte 10
NitrAte 3
Ammonia 1.0
PH 6.0
GH
KH

the ph from my tap is 6.8

should i siphon my tank and do 10% water change ?

i need help?