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Old December 22nd, 2008  
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Another, little update, he seems to be doing about the same this morning.Just a little more active then he was, rooting around today and he is going to get some jungle parisite clear just to be sure as the bigger tanks are cycling and ready soon i hope and i don't want any carrying anything with them lol. as there will be 3-fish in 1-tank and if i don't get another one 2-in the other tank-40-gallons.So, if i'm not snowed in i will be doing fish, shopping today. bella
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Old December 22nd, 2008  
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I'm glad to hear that he is improving - even if it is a slow improvement, at least it is improvement.
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Old December 22nd, 2008  
Fish Keeper
 
Yeah, Gremlin, that is for sure slow is better then none lol and gremlin, i heard that salt in aquarium is good for bringing down ammonia any one else, heard of that. I forgot what site i read it on but when they have an ammonia spike they just add salt. boy something new every day.Oh, by the way some of my pic's are up under Shawnie's profile named Bella's pic's lol.bella
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Old December 22nd, 2008  
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The salt helps them make their slime coat. I use zeolite. You can get it in small pieces like the charcoal for in your filter - http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...2&pcatid=12952 - or you can get larger pieces that can sit in your waterfall or around the tank/pond - http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...2&pcatid=14432 I hope the links work, I haven't done links on here for a while.
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Old December 22nd, 2008  
Fish Keeper
 
Yeah, they both worked Gremlin, i purchased some parasite clear today by Jungle and i think i will have to use it as they are both coming out with more worms on both fish only the little one seems worse he seems like he's losing weight too. i think he must have internal as well as external worms lol and i hope this will do the trick. The salt seems to have brought them all out. So big water change tonight and meds. i didn't want to resort to med's but i think it is neccessary bella
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Old December 22nd, 2008  
Fish Keeper
 
I would wait on the water change until AFTER you give them the jungle parasite clear treatment.Since the worms are coming out,don't add anymore salt,treat with the Jungle and follow the directions on the bottle or box,THEN change the water as recommended by the instructions.(Don't forget to remove carbon)

You almost have them cleared up,Good Job.
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Old December 22nd, 2008  
Fish Keeper
 
SOF;I don't use carbon so that's not a problem, but thanks-yeah, he don't look so good when i returned home today that is why the water change%50. as i thought maybe he would feel a little better and i started the meds and will do one tomorrow and than 25% water change as per instructions on the box. sure hope this works and after tomorrow don't know what to do then? bella
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Old December 23rd, 2008  
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I'd say once you are done with the jungle med, maybe do the salt bath again for a while. Just because it will help to restore the slime coat, and maybe help to see if they have anymore parasites. Since it is working to bring them out this time, once treated, maybe it will help your poor fishies get back on their feet - I mean fins.
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Old December 23rd, 2008  
Fish Keeper
 
Yes, Gemlin, that was the plan, i thought to use salt again, just to make sure and boy are they lively this morning all over the tank and dropping marbles this am to get my attention for breakfast lol so i guess they are really feeling better bella
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Old December 23rd, 2008  
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That is SO good to hear!
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Old December 23rd, 2008  
Fish Keeper
 
Nice job,Glad to hear they are getting better.
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Old December 24th, 2008  
Fish Keeper
 
Little, report this morning, i have never seen these two fish doing so well, since i got them. so i guess i was right in thinking they had worms, but still don't know the kind of worms they had lol. but i like the way they are now so happy fish lol. and it's sooo good to see as when they were sick it was awful to see the one little guy on the bottom and i am a salt believer now lol. bella
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Old December 24th, 2008  
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I am SO glad that your goldies are doing better. I'm just about to decided that no matter how healthy any new goldies I get may seem, I just might do a salt bath as part of the quarantine - just to make sure that they don't have any hidden bugs.
The salt bath can work wonders if you use it carefully - just like any meds. I think most people tend to overdo the salt concentration. It just doesn't take as much salt as it used to - especially for the fancier goldfish that have been bred in straight freshwater for so long.
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Old December 24th, 2008  
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shih-tzu mom it's good you're a believer in salt as a remedy.There's a lot of people who think salt is terrible.As gremlin said,The salt bath can work wonders if you use it carefully,carefully is the key word.Salt is a natural anti-biotic,anti-fungal, anti-parasitic cure all <----------that's because no life of ANY kind can live in pure salt,that's where I urge caution.Ever here the saying "too much of a good thing?" Salt can be the 'too much of a good thing' we were warned about.

Glad to hear your Oranda is doing well,now;after the lecture all I have to say is Good Job
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Old December 25th, 2008  
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Gemlin, i have to agree with you,-when getting new fish as i just have 20-of them it is a good idea just to add a little salt as a pre-caution measure when first bringing them into new home and putting in the QT tank lol and SOF you are right too, as to much of anything is not good. and thanks again for all your excellant advice bella
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