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Old December 2nd, 2008  
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Serpae Tetra

Hi ALL,

i noticed when i first got my S. Tetra that 1 of the 4 had white on thier fins now i have noticed all four with white on thier fins it kind of looks like the link below is this normal, a few of my fish (Guppies) have suffered from fin rot and im worried these fish may have developed an ICH or something.

Thanks

Link: http://www.fantasticfins.com.au/imag...ra-profile.jpg

i relised the URL name and think its normal now although im just a concerned person who worries about the well-being of his fish

Last edited by Mike19; December 2nd, 2008 at 07:20 AM.
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Old December 2nd, 2008  
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ICH looks like little grains of salt on the body or fins. This looks more like fin rot starting. If you can get it Maracyn or maracyn II is good for fin rot.
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Old December 2nd, 2008  
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ok i will do tomorrow, will this affect fish negatively who don't have fin rot or chances are all fish in the same tank have it. im from Australia, should Maracyn be found here or is it only American
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Old December 2nd, 2008  
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If you have another tank you could treat just the ones affected but it won't hurt the other fish either. Before doing any medicating always do a large water change, meds work better in really clean water.
since your country isn't listed I didn't know you were in Australia so you will have to check I'm not sure if it's available there or not.
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Old December 2nd, 2008  
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thats ok, im sure it will be there or something at its equivalent. i will do a water change before i use the meds, i have been told to remove something carbon from my filter. i dont really understand what that means


my filter is like the letter L with small circles that filters (hope u can imagine it lol sorry).

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Old December 2nd, 2008  
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Most filters have a pad or bag or something like that that the water runs through to filter it. Most of them have carbon in them. Carbon will remove meds from your water.
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Old December 2nd, 2008  
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last question sorry , will i be required to put the carbon "sponge" back in the filter or would i do that after everything seems to be fine and in order again. (Finally Fish stomachs bloating what is that a result of poor water or over eating, found on guppies male not tetras).

Thank you, Butterfly i appreciate everything.
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Old December 2nd, 2008  
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Questions are not a problem Usually fin rot and bloating are both a sign of water quality.
Since carbon "expires" after about two or three weeks most of us only use it to remove meds or filter over stocked tanks(we can discuss carbon uses later )
Is the carbon made as part of your filter media or is it separate? I think I'm asking as many questions as you are, thanks for your patience
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Old December 2nd, 2008  
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im not to sure carol i would have to get back to you on that one, first thing i will do though is go to my LFS, check my parameters, take my poor fishy with me to show the LFS the damage and buy some meds to prevent it from getting worse and affecting the others.

i have isolated a male guppy and put down (1) it was for her own good. the fish with poor health hopefully it dosnt spread to far into my lil ecosystem.

thank you carol for your time and i will update you, soon

Mike
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Old December 2nd, 2008  
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Your most welcome! And please do keep me updated.
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Old December 2nd, 2008  
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Mike, I have serpaes and the white you're seeing on the fin is perfectly normal.
Pretty fish, aren't they?
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Old December 2nd, 2008  
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Quote:
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Mike, I have serpaes and the white you're seeing on the fin is perfectly normal.
Pretty fish, aren't they?
Lucy is it suppose to be kind of ragged like that ?
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Old December 2nd, 2008  
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Quote:
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If you can get it Maracyn or maracyn II is good for fin rot.
Carol
Carol, will those meds not affect the cycle? I've got a swordtail recovering from fin rot, and I had been using melafix (it's all I could find that I was sure would work...I'm not very educated about medication yet). The tank she's in is just getting over a mini cycle after all the issues with the ammonia in my tap water, so I haven't been medicating because her fin hasn't been getting any worse and I didn't want to chance the health of everyone in the tank after the mini cycle.
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Old December 2nd, 2008  
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Carol, will those meds not affect the cycle?
Good question GG but no Maracyn nor Maracyn II either one affects the cycle.
Here is a section from the instruction pamphlet.

"Biological Filtration Not Affected By Mardel Products
Nitrobacter and Nitrosomonas are recognized as the primary beneficial bacteria present in the biological filtration system of every aquarium. Some drugs which treat fish diseases and parasitic infestations are harmful to these "good" bacteria. When the biological filter is upset, there is a buildup of ammonia and nitrite concentrations resulting in fish distress and death. Mardel products have been tested with known strains of these bacteria with no adverse effects noted. When used as directed, they do not interfere with the biological filter."
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Old December 2nd, 2008  
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Awesome! Addie will be well on her way to a full recovery after I get to the LFS. Thanks for the info.
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Old December 2nd, 2008  
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Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
If you can get it Maracyn or maracyn II is good for fin rot.
Carol


will i need both because i read that one takes care of fish who are currently ill and the others who may be susceptible to illness.
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Old December 2nd, 2008  
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As I understand it Maracyn is for gram positive microorganisms. Maracyn II is for gram negative microorganisms. They can be used together as they compliment each other. The few times I had to use meds I used Maracyn first and then if I had to went on to Maracyn II.
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Old December 2nd, 2008  
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Lucy is it suppose to be kind of ragged like that ?
carol
The picture he's posted is not his serpae.

I was commenting on the color. The fin in the picture looks normal to me.
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Old December 2nd, 2008  
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The picture he's posted is not his serpae.

I was commenting on the color. The fin in the picture looks normal to me.
I know that's not his pic but he said it looked kinda like that. This all made me curious so I took a look at mine and couldn't tell that they looked like that. Thats the reason I asked
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Old December 2nd, 2008  
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I looked at mine, they won't cooperate and hold still but the white part on the fins doesn't really look smooth.
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Old December 3rd, 2008  
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Hello ALL, just an update, i went to the LFS, got my water tested their isn't anything overly abnormal. i took one of my "fin rot" like guppies and was told that what is going on was a fungas of some sort i have put some meds in the tank the water has turned green, although this is perfectly normal for the product to act in this way.
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Old December 3rd, 2008  
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What are you using? You're right some products will color the water. Fungus Eliminator turns the water yellowish

Keep us posted.
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Old December 3rd, 2008  
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im using Aqua Master - Multi Cure

Broad spectrum medication for treatment of most common diseases in freshwater aquarium fish. Aids in the treatment of white spot (ichthyophthirius multifiliis), velvet disease (oodinium spp.), and fungal disease.

anyone heard or used this product before.

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Old December 4th, 2008  
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Ive noticed with these fish is that they like to stay at the mid-bottom region of the tank, during feeding time these fish never come up. and i wonder if they get any food with all the other hungry fish. im thinking of mixing the food sources by using flakes which float and sink if any is left and using pellets so they can sink down easier. any thoughts on this.

rather than making a new post, Zebra Danios (Long Fin) i have a pair of these top level rockets lol. most of the time they are chasing each other although their is a the occasional nip or two, the only reason i haven't bought more of these fish is that i have the mind frame that two nips every now and then will be better then 4 or 6 depending on how many more i would add.

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