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Old November 3rd, 2008  
Fish Helper
 
Two Quick Questions...

I have two questions...

I currently have three Black Phantom Tetras and a Red Tail Black Shark in a 20 Gal aquarium...

1. What type of bottom feeders do you recommend for the aggressive nature of my RTBS which will not nip the fins off my Tetra?

2. What type of Aquarium Plants would you recommend for keeping the levels of ammonia and nitrate down?

Appreciate the help...
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Old November 3rd, 2008  
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Hi RTBS Welcome to Fish Lore.

I hope you don't mind, I moved your questions to this forum where it will get more attention.

The Welcome forum is where you can say hi to everyone, please feel free to start another there introducing yourself so the members can welcome you.

I'll leave your questions to the members who are familiar with your type of fish.

Good luck.
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Old November 3rd, 2008  
Fish Keeper
 
just get some ghost shrimp. they're cheap when you have to replace them. I have them in all my tanks.
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Old November 3rd, 2008  
Fish Master
 
welcome to fishlore!!!

in a 20 gal, the rts will own it...they are very territorial and wont tolerate much near their spot....the only thing for that tank would be some cories or ottos and the rts will hurt them badly....as far as ammonia, if the tank is cycled, and not being overfed or overstocked, you shouldnt have ammonia with water maitenance..if you arent cycled yet, daily water changes with some prime water conditioner will help you with that process...goodluck!
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Old November 3rd, 2008  
Fish Helper
 
I had an American Flag fish but it nipped at the fins of one of my tetra. (I got rid of it) I was thinking about getting a Convict Chichild do you think that would be a bad idea?
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Old November 3rd, 2008  
Fish Master
 
a very bad idea...way to agressive for the tetra's and will go head to head with your rts
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Old November 3rd, 2008  
Fish Keeper
 
try a bristlenose pleco
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Old November 3rd, 2008  
Fish Helper
 
Are they a little too big for my 20Gal? Up to 18Inches...
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Old November 3rd, 2008  
Fish Master
 
the rts will harrass the bn to no end in a 20 gal tho
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Old November 3rd, 2008  
Fish Keeper
 
Quote:
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Are they a little too big for my 20Gal? Up to 18Inches...
bristle nose get to maximum 6 inches
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Old November 3rd, 2008  
Fish Keeper
 
A bristlenose pleco will only grow to 4-5", but shawnie is correct, it will probably get harassed by your shark.
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Old November 3rd, 2008  
Fish Keeper
 
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the rts will harrass the bn to no end in a 20 gal tho
I have two rts are they realy that bad? one is in a 25g and one in a 10g for now.. but both are super placid i have mine with a bn bigger then him and he goes noway near him..

I still believe that it all depends on individual fish.
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Old November 3rd, 2008  
Fish Keeper
 
I've heard that they're *typically* pretty aggressive toward other bottom dwellers but don't really bother the mid and upper level swimmers as much.
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Old November 3rd, 2008  
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A bristlenose pleco will only grow to 4-5", but shawnie is correct, it will probably get harassed by your shark.
mine is 7 yrs old and 6 inches virging on 7
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Old November 3rd, 2008  
Fish Helper
 
I guess my only option is ghost shrimp. Ill need to get a broken pot or somethin small for them to hide under also right? Are they known to clean up algae, and what do they eat?

This site is great help!!!
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Old November 3rd, 2008  
Fish Master
 
I just saw your pics and you have a rainbow shark rtbs and all the ones ive had have been very territorial...ive heard the red tails are similar but not as agressive...maybe thats why yours is different steen?
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Old November 3rd, 2008  
Fish Keeper
 
I don't have mine in anything. They'll eat anything from algea, to plants, to bloodworms.
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Old November 4th, 2008  
Fish Master
 
Quote:
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I've heard that they're *typically* pretty aggressive toward other bottom dwellers but don't really bother the mid and upper level swimmers as much.
It all depends on the size of the tank. It also depends on if the shark was in the tank first or not. As an emergency meassure I had my female betta in with my RTS and she came out fairly beat up.
The RTS once it establishes it's territory doesn't really like having anyone show up in it. And they'll claim all of the tank depending on the size.
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Old November 4th, 2008  
Fish Keeper
 
If you get ghost shrimp, Java moss is great for them to hide in, breed in, and pick around for food.

Everyone is right about RTBS, and they become much more aggressive with age and are relentless in their harassment of other fish.
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Old November 4th, 2008  
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yup i agree i had a rainbow shark and he was evil! i had to give him away to a friend of mine with a red devil (thought he would be lunch) but they get a long great randomly.. hes like 1/10th the size and he still picks fights with it! sometimes the red devil chases him but hes too smart to get caught!
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