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Old October 9th, 2008  
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Bioload... when to add fish?

My 46g is FINALLY cycled! I got 3 Cories on Wednesday (10/8/08). 2 beautiful Julei's and 1 Paletualalala (I can't pronounce or spell it. It sort of looks like a peppered cory). My friend really wants to come with me when I go to get some/another fish, and we were hoping to go to the LFS on Saturday. I know that's probably to soon to add another fish... what would it do to my tank? I was thinking of getting my Angelfish next. What do you guys suggest? Saturdays are pretty much the only days me and my friend can get together, so if I can't get any fish with confidence, then I'll just wait until next week. How long does it usually take for the bioload to catch up (for future fish)?

Thanks guys!

-SkyCrystal
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Old October 9th, 2008  
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2 weeks to be safe. I know it sucks

But you could probly introduce one then do some water changes ?
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Old October 9th, 2008  
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Hi SkyCrystal, congrats on your tank being cycled! good for you!

I figure you mean Golden Julie (Julidochromis ornatus) which is a Lake Tanganyika Cichlid and the other one I have no clue. If that's the case, you might consider keeping your water hard: 10 to 20 dGH (if not already hard from your source) and aim for pH at 7.8.

These beautiful fish can be aggressive towards con-specifics (other Julies) due to territorial issues. Providing caves and rocks for them would also be a good idea. Despite info on 55gal as ideal minimum tank size, your 46 would work if you are capable of keeping water parameters and aquascaping suitable for them.

Please check the ID of your fish at the following link (there are 31 profiles of Julidochromus with pics for most but not all of them):
http://www.cichlid-forum.com/profile...ory.php?cat=11

Of these this (image of sub-adult) is likely the most common in the trade (I could be wrong):
http://www.cichlid-forum.com/profile...es.php?id=2189

At this link a picture of an adult one:
http://www.aquariumlife.net/profiles...lie/100100.asp

As far as corydoras, be aware that some will outgrow most tanks, and become a real death/serious injury risk for most other tankmates as adults.

Although not tried-and-true, some people (me included, at least temporarily) happen to successfully mix African Cichlids with South/Central American Cichlids (e.g. I have 3 Kenyi -African Cichlid (mine could be Hybrids of Kenyi), with 2 Oscars, 2 Severums, and 4 Convicts -all South/Central American in a 145gal tank).

Angelfish are also territorial and need tall rather than long tanks since they reach over 6" from top to bottom so check the height of your tank; although they might like soft-acidic water most do well in hard-alkaline water if you go for the low range of the General Hardness/pH suggested for the Julies (say 10-12 dGH, pH 7.8) you might pull this off.

However, if your source water is not closely within this parameters, I would reconsider getting into this project, since tampering with pH, GH, KH can be really stressful for you and your fish, although it can be done safely, it will take a lot of hard work with such small threshold for error (I mean for the Angelfish + Julies project).

I'm glad you got your tank cycled and got these nice fishies! upload some pics for us!

Pepe
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Old October 10th, 2008  
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Lol! I don't have cichlids in my tank! This is a community tank. I have a Dwarf Gourami and 3 Corydoras... you know? Cory cats. Cories? (catfish) The lable on at the LFS said Julei Corydoras. I've heard of these before... they sort of look like Leopard Cories. They aren't aggressive or territorial. I've already figured out the compatibility, and I have a plan B if there's any issues with the Dwarf Gourami and the Angelfish. You can look in my blog for the complete stocking list. Not the first post. I updated it in one of the later ones.

Darn. I can't get the Angelfish for another 2 weeks. And the LFS will be closed in 2 weeks for Friday and Saturday. Maybe me and my friend will be able to go on Thursday. It was particularly the Angelfish that she wanted to help me pick out, name, etc.

Thanks guys!

-SkyCrystal
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Old October 10th, 2008  
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The common name for those cories are False Julies.
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Old October 10th, 2008  
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With the cories going in first, pay close attention to water quality after the angels are added, and hop on any ammonia or nitrite levels with water changes.

A week and a half would be an okay amount of time, so go for it on that Thursday, if you can.
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Old October 10th, 2008  
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Thanks everyone!

I read in someone else's thread that the max fish added was 4. I only got 3 Cories... is it OK for me to get the Angelfish today then?
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Old October 10th, 2008  
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Your pepper is Corydoras paleatus
Is this your Cory
http://www.peteducation.com/article....articleid=2769
The angel should be fine to add now But I would wait at least a week before adding anything else. Have fun!
Carol

Last edited by Butterfly; October 10th, 2008 at 03:22 PM.
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Old October 11th, 2008  
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
Your pepper is Corydoras paleatus
Is this your Cory
http://www.peteducation.com/article....articleid=2769
The angel should be fine to add now But I would wait at least a week before adding anything else. Have fun!
Carol
Thanks so much! I did end up getting a smaller Angel last night. I think they're called Altum Angelfish? It has a small injury right above it's eyes... I didn't notice it until we were already half way home. I named it June (assuming that it's a girl), although I haven't confirmed it's gender yet.

Yes, Gray (the peppered one) is the Corydoras Paleatus. But the other cories aren't the ones you specified. They only have spots on the top of their heads. I'll try and see if I can get pictures up later today.

Thanks Butterfly! And another big thank you to everybody else!

-SkyCrystal

EDIT: I think I'll get the Cherry Barbs in about 2 weeks. I think I'll just add 4 though, then get the others later.
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