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Old October 6th, 2008  
Fish Bum
 
Turning off the system while doing water changes

Most of the guides and manuals I've read about water changes/gravel vacuuming say to turn off everything, like the heater and power filter. Is that really a good idea? It takes me over an hour to remove decorations, vacuum the gravel, put the decorations back and then add new water. Wouldn't the biological filter get too dry in an hour and the bacteria on the filter die off? Once I turn off the power and start removing water, I can hear all the water getting drained from the filter. I assume this can't be good for the bacteria on my filter media. Can someone who's been doing this for years advise? Thanks in advance.
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Old October 6th, 2008  
Fish Keeper
 
They only say it as a safety warning because you could get a electric shock.
But I myself dont bother turning it off lol
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Old October 6th, 2008  
Fish Bum
 
Yeah, I don't bother either. But the thing is, once I remove 25% or more water, my pump starts having trouble pulling up water and pushing it through the filter. I'm wondering if that's hard on the motor and if it might shorten the lifespan of my equipment.

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They only say it as a safety warning because you could get a electric shock.
But I myself dont bother turning it off lol
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Old October 6th, 2008  
Fish Keeper
 
The reason for turning off the power is because the motor can burn up on the filter and the glass from the heater can shatter if it's out of water.

It takes you a very long time to do water changes! I just push my decor to to the other side of the tank, vacuum, then push it back. I do about half the gravel during each water change so I don't disturb too much.
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Old October 7th, 2008  
Fish Keeper
 
All my intake tubes and heater are lower than half way. So I dont have to worry about that stuff.
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Old October 7th, 2008  
Moderator
 
I turn mine off even though the heater and intake stay underwater, but only because electricity and I don't get along well.
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Old October 7th, 2008  
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Most of the guides and manuals I've read about water changes/gravel vacuuming say to turn off everything, like the heater and power filter. Is that really a good idea? It takes me over an hour to remove decorations, vacuum the gravel, put the decorations back and then add new water. Wouldn't the biological filter get too dry in an hour and the bacteria on the filter die off? Once I turn off the power and start removing water, I can hear all the water getting drained from the filter. I assume this can't be good for the bacteria on my filter media. Can someone who's been doing this for years advise? Thanks in advance.
If you are going to turn everything off for awhile while you do your tank cleaning, and are concerned about the filter media going dry, you can always add some tank water to the holding side of the filter. enough to keep the media wet, but not enough for it to over flow back into the tank.
You really want to make sure that your heater is below the water level so that it does not break when not submerged. I also keep my heater turned on and under the water level while doing a water change. As the water goes down, I just push the heater farther down into the water, or push it sideways so that it stays under water. That works only if your heater is a submersible type.
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Old October 7th, 2008  
Fish Bum
 
i turn off everything when i change water. the last thing i plug in is the heater so it has time to adjust to the water first
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Old October 7th, 2008  
Fish Keeper
 
I unplug the heater. I've had two pop on me. They are just too expensive to monkey around with. The same with the filters if the intake is exposed. I believe its tough on the motor and it could burn out. Something you don't want to keep buying.
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Old October 7th, 2008  
Fish Master
 
I only turn everything off if I'm doing a big water change that will be below the filter intake. Usually my waterchanges aren't that big though, so I usually don't.
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Old October 7th, 2008  
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I only turn everything off if I'm doing a big water change that will be below the filter intake. Usually my waterchanges aren't that big though, so I usually don't.
ditto!

Kelly
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Old October 7th, 2008  
Fish Keeper
 
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because electricity and I don't get along well.
That surprises me since you are so easy to get along with!
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Old October 7th, 2008  
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That surprises me since you are so easy to get along with!
Thanks, John
Two close encounters with lightening strikes (seriously even my family won't stand near me when it storms), various plugs and a nice zzzzzap from a dog collar say otherwise, by the way, they really really hurt so don't use them on your dogs. Oh and no lol I wasn't wearing it, I had it in my hand when the dog barked.... Guess he taught me!

I unplug with water changes
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Old October 7th, 2008  
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Thanks, John
Two close encounters with lightening strikes (seriously even my family won't stand near me when it storms), various plugs and a nice zzzzzap from a dog collar say otherwise, by the way, they really really hurt so don't use them on your dogs. Oh and no lol I wasn't wearing it, I had it in my hand when the dog barked.... Guess he taught me!

I unplug with water changes
WOW Lucy very bad run with electricity!
Yikes I have been zapped by a dog collar to but thats because my friends put it on my leg when I was sleeping! haha
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Old October 7th, 2008  
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WOW Lucy very bad run with electricity!
Yikes I have been zapped by a dog collar to but thats because my friends put it on my leg when I was sleeping! haha
Wow, you've got some interesting friends...
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Old October 7th, 2008  
Fish Keeper
 
Yea never go to sleep before them is the best way to stay out of trouble HAhaha
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Old October 7th, 2008  
cpk
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I can say electricity and your hands in te water can lead to problems.I use gravel cleaner to do water change so hands not in tank.always make sure you do not expose heater above water level.when hands in tank yes turn off any powered device !! .so you need to lower your heater below your lower water change level and turn it off when you do this then put it back after to where you want it to be.Do not let fiter motors run dry either.if you wish to put your hands in your tank with things running supply everthing off an rcd (residual current device )this will prevent you getting an electric shock in the unlikely event of something going wrong .I hope this is helpful I would hate for any fl members to get hurt
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Old October 7th, 2008  
Fish Bum
 
I leave my light plugged in so i can see what i am doing lol. without it i might crush one of my fish!!!!
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