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Old September 20th, 2008  
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know if they are male or female?

i want to put some kenyi cichlid in with my yellow labs.. is there anyway to see if the juvi's at pets unlimited are male or female? same goes with yellow labs
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Old September 20th, 2008  
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With kenyi's the males are golden color w/ brownish bars and the females are blue w/ black bars. The yellow labs are hard to sex, sometimes depends on the amount of black on the anal fin. If they have more black on the anal fin they are male.

The pics attached, the blue one is my female kenyi and the gold is my male they are a breeding pair I have.
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Old September 20th, 2008  
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wow thats the easiest fish ive ever seen to sex ! no mistakes on that one hey ... great looking pair btw!
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Old September 21st, 2008  
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yeah i realize that when they are full grown the males are yellow.. im wondering about the young ones because they are all blue? sometimes there is a slight yellow tinge to them but usually they all look female. ive read on some sites that they have a egg spot on their tail but not every site says that so i dont know how reliable that is?
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Old September 21st, 2008  
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Yellow labs and kenyi are not compatible for life as adults. They have two different levels of aggression.
http://cichlidforum.com/articles/compatibility.php
As adult the kenyi get pretty evil.
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Old September 21st, 2008  
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alrighty im glad i ran that by you then :P
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Old September 21st, 2008  
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Yellow labs and kenyi are not compatible for life as adults. They have two different levels of aggression.
http://cichlidforum.com/articles/compatibility.php
As adult the kenyi get pretty evil.
That is actually what I have my yellow labs in my 55g w/ they have been together since I got my kenyi. There has been no aggression between the labs and kenyi, its been more between the kenyi and other fish.
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Old September 21st, 2008  
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That is actually what I have my yellow labs in my 55g w/ they have been together since I got my kenyi. There has been no aggression between the labs and kenyi, its been more between the kenyi and other fish.
Personally I would not put them together just b/c I like to keep the same aggression levels in different tanks. Just b/c you've had luck so far doesn't mean it works for all.
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Old September 21st, 2008  
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ok i think im goin to be safe and not get the kenyi but the original question still picks my curiosity.. is there anyway to tell if juvinile kenyi are male or female?
on a side note would it be any safer to get just female kenyi to go with the 5 yellow labs i already have?
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Old September 21st, 2008  
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alrighty im glad i ran that by you then :P
As a beginner to Malawi cichlids...if I were you just stick to the less aggressive species. Labs, rusties, afras, cobalt zebra, acei...here an article.
http://cichlidforum.com/articles/spe..._beginners.php
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Old September 21st, 2008  
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ok i think im goin to be safe and not get the kenyi but the original question still picks my curiosity.. is there anyway to tell if juvinile kenyi are male or female?
on a side note would it be any safer to get just female kenyi to go with the 5 yellow labs i already have?
Never get a single Malawi..they will wreak havoc in your tank. Males even more.
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Old September 21st, 2008  
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Personally I would not put them together just b/c I like to keep the same aggression levels in different tanks. Just b/c you've had luck so far doesn't mean it works for all.
That is true! They grew up together from same size juvies and have their own territories of the tank and so on including pecking order.

Kenyi on the most part from all the litature on cichilds I have read are not a good starter mbuna because of the aggression level. We happend upon the kenyi by getting pretty fish for our tank when we got juvies, and then learning later what mixed and what didn't, I have gotten rid of a lot of fish, and moved a lot of fish into different tanks. Our labs and kenyi seem to be able to get along w/ our kenyi, but I wouldn't bet on the polits and labs mixing or so on...



I def back Allie up on the single malawi cichlids up, you want to buy them in groups, and one male w/ 3-4 males is your better choice when getting them.
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Old September 21st, 2008  
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That is true! They grew up together from same size juvies and have their own territories of the tank and so on including pecking order.

Kenyi on the most part from all the litature on cichilds I have read are not a good starter mbuna because of the aggression level. We happend upon the kenyi by getting pretty fish for our tank when we got juvies, and then learning later what mixed and what didn't, I have gotten rid of a lot of fish, and moved a lot of fish into different tanks. Our labs and kenyi seem to be able to get along w/ our kenyi, but I wouldn't bet on the polits and labs mixing or so on...



I def back Allie up on the single malawi cichlids up, you want to buy them in groups, and one male w/ 3-4 males is your better choice when getting them.
Oh lord the species I have gone thru to learn which ones I like best.
M.Msobo single male was the worst mistake...he killed a 6" male acei and our 4" frontosa. Our single male 6" Red Top zebra wasn't mean but he dug like crazy and interfered with our fish we wanted to breed.
Labs tend to keep to themselves for the most part, not instigators like some other species.
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Old September 21st, 2008  
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Oh lord the species I have gone thru to learn which ones I like best.
M.Msobo single male was the worst mistake...he killed a 6" male acei and our 4" frontosa. Our single male 6" Red Top zebra wasn't mean but he dug like crazy and interfered with our fish we wanted to breed.
Labs tend to keep to themselves for the most part, not instigators like some other species.
I have learned so far my favorite malawis are Yellow Labs, Hongi (of coarse another lab species), my Cynatilapia afra hai reefs.

I love my polits and kenyi but they can be the trouble children in the tanks at times. My ps flavus haven't grown out to full size yet so I can't speak for their personalities.
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Old September 21st, 2008  
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Sorry for hijacking the thread kieley. Our side chat probably will be helpful for you. lol

Sometimes picking Malawi cichlids is pain.
Our cobalt zebra colony stopped breeding b/c the labs were in the tank. Our male would get in their face at breeding time. I have found from the breeding point of view that certain species which you think could be good together, end up disrupting the flow when they aren't getting any. lol
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Old September 21st, 2008  
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Sorry for hijacking the thread kieley. Our side chat probably will be helpful for you. lol

Sometimes picking Malawi cichlids is pain.
Our cobalt zebra colony stopped breeding b/c the labs were in the tank. Our male would get in their face at breeding time. I have found from the breeding point of view that certain species which you think could be good together, end up disrupting the flow when they aren't getting any. lol
Im sorry too...
There are def some species that are better than others to start out w/ for a lake malawi tank.
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Old September 21st, 2008  
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lol no problem! its all very interesting..
i ment a group of just females not just adding 1
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Old September 21st, 2008  
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lol no problem! its all very interesting..
i ment a group of just females not just adding 1
You could do an all female tank or an all male tank. That can work.
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