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Old September 19th, 2008  
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Fancy Guppies

I dont know why these arent recommended more. They are the coolest thing my tank. They school all over the tank, and when you add their tails and colors, they are awesome.

Other tank mates:

Hatchets
Platys
Ghost catfish
Cherry Barbs
1 goldfish

Jim
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Old September 19th, 2008  
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I didn't know they weren't recommended. I'd love to have a guppy tank.
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Old September 19th, 2008  
Fish Mentor
 
I think fancy guppies are adorable! The only problem is that all the fish I keep would probably eat them
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Old September 19th, 2008  
Fish Master
 
I got some a couple weeks ago and I adore them also...great lil fish
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Old September 19th, 2008  
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Originally Posted by jjdaugh View Post
I dont know why these arent recommended more. They are the coolest thing my tank. They school all over the tank, and when you add their tails and colors, they are awesome.

Other tank mates:

Hatchets
Platys
Ghost catfish
Cherry Barbs
1 goldfish

Jim

I agree, but I think people just assume everyone knows about guppys, so they are not recommended as much as they could be lol.

They can also go with neons, cardinals, rasboras, corys, plecos, swordtails, mollys, shrimp.... the list goes on and on lol
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Old September 20th, 2008  
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Guppies would owrk great in there...

Oh, and Goldfish need a cold water tank (no heater) and don't thrive in a tropical tank, and will also eat your other fish when full gorwn so take him back to the LFS or ger a 20gal tank coldwater.

How many hatchets d you have?
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Old September 20th, 2008  
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Guppies would owrk great in there...

Oh, and Goldfish need a cold water tank (no heater) and don't thrive in a tropical tank, and will also eat your other fish when full gorwn so take him back to the LFS or ger a 20gal tank coldwater.

How many hatchets d you have?
I respectfully disagree with the need for cold water.... here is a quote from wikipedia...

"Temperatures under about 10 °C (50 °F) are dangerous to fancy varieties of goldfish, though commons and commets can be exposed to these temperatures without a problem. Extreme high temperatures (over 82°F) can start to become harmful to the fish, though can actually be benificial when fighting protozoan infestations, increasing the rapidity of the parasite's life-cycle, thus eliminating the problem more quickly. The optimum temperature seems to be around 75°F " End quote.

However, I do agree that they should not be kept with tropical fish... they produce up to 10 times more waste than most tropical fish... they will outgrow almost any common size tank... and they can harbor diseases that tropical fish do not have a good immunity to.

Also I wasnt aware that goldfish would eat other fish

Last edited by clinton1621; September 20th, 2008 at 04:13 AM.
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Old September 20th, 2008  
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I respectfully disagree with the need for cold water.... here is a quote from wikipedia...

"Temperatures under about 10 °C (50 °F) are dangerous to fancy varieties of goldfish, though commons and commets can be exposed to these temperatures without a problem. Extreme high temperatures (over 82°F) can start to become harmful to the fish, though can actually be benificial when fighting protozoan infestations, increasing the rapidity of the parasite's life-cycle, thus eliminating the problem more quickly. The optimum temperature seems to be around 75°F " End quote.

However, I do agree that they should not be kept with tropical fish... they produce up to 10 times more waste than most tropical fish... they will outgrow almost any common size tank... and they can harbor diseases that tropical fish do not have a good immunity to.

Also I wasnt aware that goldfish would eat other fish
Commonb goldies grow to 20cm - big fish eat little fish.

What I mean by 'coldwater' is temperate climate. The climate in the water fluctuates with the seasons - which is why they need no heater because the ideal temps are no heater.
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Old September 20th, 2008  
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Commonb goldies grow to 20cm - big fish eat little fish.

What I mean by 'coldwater' is temperate climate. The climate in the water fluctuates with the seasons - which is why they need no heater because the ideal temps are no heater.
Goldfish are not carnivores by nature though are they? I was thinking they are herbivores... I know that they dont actually digest protein very well, so if they were eating fish it wouldnt do them a lot of good lol

I know what you meant by the temperature climate... obviously they dont require a heater, but having them in warm water is not bad for them.... probably speeds up their metabolic and growth rate, which would equal possible shorter lifespan, but then again goldfish can live for 20+ years lol.
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Old September 20th, 2008  
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Goldfish don't eat other gold fish. Just because they get big don't change them to carnivors.

Back on topic, I also don't know why the are not recommended more. I know some strains can be a bit difficult to keep but in general they are very nice in a tank.

RK
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Old September 20th, 2008  
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Goldfish don't eat other gold fish. Just because they get big don't change them to carnivors.

Back on topic, I also don't know why the are not recommended more. I know some strains can be a bit difficult to keep but in general they are very nice in a tank.

RK
That's why a lot of places don't reccomend them.

Goldies are omnivores - they eat both meat and veg. A full grown goldie happily snacks on neons. My understanding is they are mostly veggie though.

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Goldfish are not carnivores by nature though are they? I was thinking they are herbivores... I know that they dont actually digest protein very well, so if they were eating fish it wouldnt do them a lot of good lol

I know what you meant by the temperature climate... obviously they dont require a heater, but having them in warm water is not bad for them.... probably speeds up their metabolic and growth rate, which would equal possible shorter lifespan, but then again goldfish can live for 20+ years lol.
Shorter lifespan is the bad point of heated goldie tanks. They thrive best in goldie only tanks.
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Old September 20th, 2008  
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I did some research on guppy's and i was wondering if dwarf puffers would eat guppy fry? By the way, how fast and nimble are guppy fry?

Would be fun for the puffers to have some hard to catch food?
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Old September 20th, 2008  
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I think that puffers eat snails and crustations.
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Old September 20th, 2008  
Fish Master
 
goldies will eat other fish if they fit in their mouths I use to feed my lionheads guppy fry and small guppies..until I learned about HITH
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Old September 20th, 2008  
Fish Addict
 
fry are surprisingly fast for such a small fish.
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Old September 20th, 2008  
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That's why a lot of places don't reccomend them.

Goldies are omnivores - they eat both meat and veg. A full grown goldie happily snacks on neons. My understanding is they are mostly veggie though.



Shorter lifespan is the bad point of heated goldie tanks. They thrive best in goldie only tanks.
A good temp to aim for in all goldfish tanks is 68*
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Old September 20th, 2008  
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I love having guppies. they do require water changes every week. depending on how many you have per gallon. I keep mine in warm temps and they usually dont get parisites. but on occassion one will get sick. as with any fish. I had a female have over 20 babies a couple weeks ago and Im down to 4. they were born too early and most had clamped tail. I have a couple that are 6 weeks old from the same female. and their developing beautiful colors. they are a nice community fish. I would recommend about 4 adults to a ten gallon tank. cause they will breed right away. my albino catfish is an excellent baby sitter. and will hover above them. and will not harm mine, kinda cute. to see the babies hiding underneath him.
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Old September 21st, 2008  
Fish Newbie
 
My water is doing great. I have live plants, and my Ammonia, Nitrite and Nitrate levels are all perfect. (Knock on wood) The plants are Water Wisteria, and are growing like crazy in low light. After 45 days, I have to trim them down!

People really focus on that goldfish. He is one of my favorite fish since he is quite active and has a funny personality. I am hoping he wont get big enough to eat the guppies, although fantails can get up to 6" long. My guess is he is about 2.5" now. The fancy guppies though are just great looking fish, and can catch an eye.
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