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August 18th, 2008
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Fish Keeper
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As an append to my previous post, on the matter of adding cold water to your tanks, I'm sorry but I have to agree here that unless it is a very small % water change, you are going to stress / shock your fish with a large temp. change all at once. Temperature shock happens to all animals, fish included.
If you're really set on doing water changes with cold water sources, I would suggest leaving the buckets to attain at least room temp. before adding them to the tank. This is, of course, only feasible if you're doing small water changes, or in small tanks... better, however, than subjecting your fish to the added stress of temp. fluctuations as well as sticking your hands in the tank, changing water parameters, etc.
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August 18th, 2008
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Fish Newbie
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Thanks everyone for the kind words and the great advice. I think that I will focus on getting the ammonia down and finishing the cycle. I tested the water again this eveing and I am still at about 1ppm Ammonia and 0ppm nitrite and nitrates.
Thanks again for everyone support
RJ
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August 19th, 2008
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Fish Helper
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Devon
As an append to my previous post, on the matter of adding cold water to your tanks, I'm sorry but I have to agree here that unless it is a very small % water change, you are going to stress / shock your fish with a large temp. change all at once. Temperature shock happens to all animals, fish included.
If you're really set on doing water changes with cold water sources, I would suggest leaving the buckets to attain at least room temp. before adding them to the tank. This is, of course, only feasible if you're doing small water changes, or in small tanks... better, however, than subjecting your fish to the added stress of temp. fluctuations as well as sticking your hands in the tank, changing water parameters, etc.
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As stated it works for me, my fish show no signs of stress from this practice. I use the same system for all tanks from 350litres down to 18 litres. Been doing it for years.
This is my experience of doing it this way, i'm more than happy to continue doing it this way. If you not happy doing it that way well and good. But it works for me.
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August 20th, 2008
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Fish Helper
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Oh Im so sorry for your loss, its really hard... I dont know if you are a new fish owner or not... Im presuming you are... like me.... I think it takes a little time to become a little more philosophical to accepting losing a fish especially you whole tank of fishes and moving on... so learn from the mistakes, and good luck with your new fishies..... I also made huge mistakes when I took over a 12 gal tank from a friend and then thought I needed to clean the tank and the filter media in tap water... couldnt understand why I was losing my fish... after tears and buriels...as I couldnt fathom putting them down the loo... I came ikn search of answers and fell onto this board.... and I have learnt tons and become a lot more successful in looking after my fish....
So good luck... and start planning your new fish friends once your tank has cycled correctly ....
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August 20th, 2008
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Fish Master
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Originally Posted by clinton1621
It sounds like with how quick they died that you forgot to dechlor the water, chlorine kills fish within minutes.... or a second guess would be that the water you added was more than a few degrees different from your tank water and sent the fish into shock
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 We've never lost a fish when we didn't use a water conditioner? We always makes sure the water coming out the python is just the close to same temp as the tank water.
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August 21st, 2008
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Fish Bum
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Hi Id start over with different water add declorinator. and make sure temps are normal and ph levels and all the tests are good. and correct. when your tank is cycled add water to the bags you bring your fish home in, this water is from the tank their going in. and add small amounts at a time. for over a 20 minute period. dont add more than a couple fish at a time, you might wanna start with zebra dinos or mollies. anyway I very sorry you lost you fish. 
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August 21st, 2008
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Fish Keeper
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Originally Posted by Allie
 We've never lost a fish when we didn't use a water conditioner? We always makes sure the water coming out the python is just the close to same temp as the tank water.
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I don't know, when they're stressed out for other reasons, and then forgetting to dechlorinate with a WC... it could happen?  But I know that the first betta I ever owned never got water conditioner... I didn't know any better  ... he lived a year.
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