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July 26th, 2008
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When I bought my bottle of Stress Coat, it came with a free bottle of Stress Zyme. I added it a couple of times, but then kinda lost interest in adding it. Maybe I'll add some again. I really don't know if it helps much or not. To me, it's not a must have.
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July 26th, 2008
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Fish Addict
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well looks like my ammonia reading is 8.0 i just tested it well i got a bio filter filter thing and the api test kit which i am using atm.
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July 27th, 2008
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Fish Newbie
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jdhef
You don't want to use Cycle. It is a product that actually nevers allows your tank to cycle properly. If you use Cycle, you need to add it at regular inervals for the life of the tank.
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Could you elaborate on this please. How does it impede it from "never" acheiving a proper cycle? Also nowhere on the packaging or bottle does it say it's mandatory to use it for the life of your tank. It only suggests using some during maintenance to help supplement for any bacteria you may lose. I don't mean to grill you. I'm just curious to know how if you get your amm/nitri/nitra numbers to signify your tank is ready that it wouldn't be as properly cycled as a tank that got the same numbers that didn't use Cycle, or if you stopped using Cycle somehow existing bacteria in your setup would somehow stop working.  |
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July 27th, 2008
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Fish Addict
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that my friend is a good question that needs answering imo. lol
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July 27th, 2008
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Until someone comes along that has personal experience and can explain it better, I'll try with my limited knowledge of it.
The bacteria you're trying to grow is called nitrobacter it converts nitrites into nitrates.
Cycle contains nitrosomonas, which is the wrong kind of bacteria to sustain your tank and dies off quickly.
Sorry if this didn't answer your question thoroughly.
Edit: Thanks Shawnie, I forgot about that thread.
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July 27th, 2008
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Fish Master
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucy
Until someone comes along that has personal experience and can explain it better, I'll try with my limited knowledge of it.
The bacteria you're trying to grow is called nitrobacter it converts nitrites into nitrates.
Cycle contains nitrosomonas, which is the wrong kind of bacteria to sustain your tank and dies off quickly.
Sorry if this didn't answer your question thoroughly.
Edit: Thanks Shawnie, I forgot about that thread.
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anytime lucy! I cant spell those big words like you can  |
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July 27th, 2008
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Fish Addict
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well i am doing a 90% water change and starting over fresh do i add the ammonia directly into the water or how exactly
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July 27th, 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jdhef
I believe that you want to add enough drops to bring the ammonia to 2.0. I think that once you start to see nitrites you add half as many drops until your finished cycling.
If I'm inncorrect, hopefully someone will jump in and correct me.
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John had it right. When I cycled with ammonia I brought it up to 5 I think, but I had seeded the tank with used filter media from my established tank.
You add the ammonia right into the water.
Hang in there, you'll get it. Good luck.  |
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July 27th, 2008
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Fish Master
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Quote:
Originally Posted by morganrules
well i am doing a 90% water change and starting over fresh do i add the ammonia directly into the water or how exactly
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I wouldnt start everything over...this is what id do....if your ammonia is still at 8, leave the tank be for a few days..let the nitrites have a chance to spike...I would add stress zyme of you have it...ive used it and although its not as good as biospira, it works well....if you are having issues with too much ammonia, just put a small piece of raw shrimp after the ammonia drops which will be a few days im sure.....doesnt have to be big at all..then just ignore (as hard as that is) the tank for a bit...thats my two cents |
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July 27th, 2008
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Fish Addict
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i just did a 50% about to check levels of ammonia and hopefully its at 2 and ill refill it there
what do you think about that shawnie
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July 27th, 2008
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do the test and go from there hopefully you are going to see a nitrite reading!! keeping fingers crossed!!! |
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July 27th, 2008
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Fish Addict
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i think i messed up badly when i just added to much pure ammonia and i think the filter couldnt take it
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July 27th, 2008
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It's a double edged sword, you need ammonia to help the bacteria grow, too much and it kills bacteria.
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July 27th, 2008
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Fish Addict
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is 3 ppm ammonia ok?
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July 27th, 2008
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Fish Addict
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is 3 ppm ammonia ok? should i refill water
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July 27th, 2008
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Fish Master
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yes refill the tank and use your stress zyme and let it be..do a test tomorrow and see where you stand..do you have any nitrites?
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July 27th, 2008
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Fish Addict
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i have nothing no nitrites or nitrates just ammonia lots and lots of ammonia (im selling some if anyone wants it lol)i also dont have stress zyme i have wardleys chlor out removes cholrine and chloramine
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