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July 10th, 2008
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Fish Newbie
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gray cloudiness and high ammonia
I have had my 10g tank set up for a month now and the last 3 weeks I have had gray/white cloud inside the tank. Which I have read and assume is bacteria bloom and I have a large amount of ammonia in the tank hasn't seemed to change at all (3-5mg/l). I have very low if not zero nitrites and nitrates, I have used the proper chemicals, and done what should have started the cycling in it. The temperature of the water is 27 Celsius with little to no hardness. The pH is 7.5...let me know what you suggest I really want to get this going so I can start putting fishies in there and get my girlfriend off my back 
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July 10th, 2008
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Fish Master
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welcome to fishlore!! just feed the fishtank a lil bit of fish food every 12 hours or so and wait for ammonia and nitrites to be 0 and nitrates under 20...you are doing everything right by cycleing fishless!! goodluck!
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July 10th, 2008
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Fish Newbie
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But shouldn't the fact that there is really high ammonia cause it to start?
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July 10th, 2008
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Fish Helper
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Yes, and it will. Just have to have patience. The growth of these bacteria are not as fast as many others.
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July 10th, 2008
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Fish Newbie
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alright thanks for the help. I just would have thought it would be a little farther along after a month ><;
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July 10th, 2008
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Fish Helper
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What water conditioner are you using (assuming you are using tap water)? It can take this long, but I agree, seems a little long.
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July 10th, 2008
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Fish Newbie
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it is a Big Als brand (came with the tank)
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July 10th, 2008
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Fish Helper
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Does it say it kills Chlorine and Chloromine, or just one or the other? Do you know which is used in your tap water? Also, does it say anything about "locking" or de-toxifying Ammonia and/or Nitrites?
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July 10th, 2008
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Fish Newbie
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chlorine and chloramine but it doesnt say detoxifying or locking of it
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July 10th, 2008
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Fish Helper
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Hmmmm. No idea what would be taking the bacteria so long to begin working.
What kind of filter do you have (more interested in biological filter, but my assumption is that it is an all in one type of power filter). Also, are you using a gravel substrate?
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July 10th, 2008
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Fish Master
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have u been feeding the tank daily ? because it will take time if not ...bacteria will die without either putting in some ammonia, or feeding fish food to the bacteria..if you have ANY nitrites or nitrates, its coming along well..if they are totally 0, its still in the beginning stages...but the cloudyness means theres a bloom so continue to feed the tank and yes, patience is something you cant buy 
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July 10th, 2008
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Fish Keeper
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You can always get Tetra Safe Start...  you'll be done waiting!
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July 10th, 2008
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Fish Master
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im still very very very leary about recommending that product...just have a back up plan is you try it...another thread is going around that says no water changes for 6months with one of their other products! hello can you imagine!!
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July 10th, 2008
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Fish Keeper
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WOW!!!!  how is that possible  ? I thought it was the same as biospira  ? Can u please post the link shawnie? 
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July 10th, 2008
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Fish Newbie
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Shawnie why am I feeding the tank daily if it has ammonia between 3-5 already?
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July 10th, 2008
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Fish Master
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how did you get the ammonia? from pure ammonia? or from feeding it to begin with? as long as it stays high like that you dont, but soon as it starts to drop and you get more nitrites, then feed it ....sorry I assmumed the 3-5 was a past reading not a current..I appologize 
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July 10th, 2008
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Fish Newbie
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I fed it in the beginning. The problem is it hasn't dropped any in a few weeks (and no nitrites) so I am worried that the bacteria bloom isn't helping any
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July 10th, 2008
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Fish Master
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it will  the bloom is a good sign!! its a sign you are getting good bacteria needed for the cycle...again I appologize for the confusion..my brunette moment kinda day
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