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Old June 18th, 2008  
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Guppies + Fishbowl = dead

Hi.
We are trying to have 1-2 fish in a fishbowl just as a little pet. However, the Guppies we buy seem to last a few weeks an then die. We don't want to go to the expense of an aquarium, and simply want fish in a fishbowl.

Each time the guppies died, it was the morning after we changed their water, but we had changed it before (weekly) and everything was just fine.

Any advise?

Thanks!
Adrian
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Old June 18th, 2008  
Fish Addict
 
Unfortunately, fish bowls aren't really the best places for fish. (Kinda ironic, seeing as that's what they're made for...) Guppies really need to be kept in a filtered and heated aquarium.

Did you treat the water before you put it in? That could be another problem, along with the bowl.

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Old June 18th, 2008  
Fish Bum
 
Fish bowls are a relic of our past, but if you prefer to use one try goldfish. Tropical fish usually need more care. Put one gold fish in it and make sure to use a little pea gravel.
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Old June 18th, 2008  
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Fish bowls are a relic of our past, but if you prefer to use one try goldfish. Tropical fish usually need more care. Put one gold fish in it and make sure to use a little pea gravel.
Goldfish also need a filtered aquarium! They get really really big! (True, though, they're not tropical fish, so they don't need a heater.)
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Old June 18th, 2008  
Fish Bum
 
But, goldfish like Rosy Reds (usually used as bait) usually stay small. Daily water changes will work for it.
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Old June 18th, 2008  
Fish Newbie
 
The bowl has gravel, a little fake plant and a turtle statue in it.... Yes we got these drops and put it in... when changing the water, we would put a cup of old water with the fish in the bowl for about 3 hours to try to get the temperatures the same before dumping them back in.

What i don't understand is:

a) they seemd to be fine... happy as anything, eating at feeding time every night, playing, etc etc

b) we've changed the water before the exact same way and they've been fine.

We really do like how guppies look / act and neither have an interested in goldfish. IF there is any way to make this work we'd like to..... any other advise would be appreciated.
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Old June 18th, 2008  
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Hi adrianb welcome to Fish Lore

I'm sorry for the loss of your fish. Unfortunately, a fish bowl isn't a healthy home for fish.
What size bowl do you have?
When fish poo, it turns into ammonia which is toxic to fish. In a small bowl, ammonia builds up quickly.
You also have to be sure to treat your tap water with a water conditioner that removes chlorine that's in your tap water....
chlorine is also toxic to fish.
Guppies and other tropical fish need a warm consistent temperature.
It's near impossible to maintain that in a bowl.

Here's a link to read that explains it better:
http://www.fishlore.com/NitrogenCycle.htm


Aquariums don't have to be expensive. Walmart has a 10g kit that runs around $35.00-$40.00. To keep tropical fish you would also have to add a heater. You can also keep your eye on Craig's List and Freecycle. You can usually pick up a bargain, or better yet free.

The initial expense is well worth the price and health of your fish.

Here are a few things you can read that I hope you will find helpful:
READ FIRST: Freshwater Beginner Important Topics

Good luck.
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Old June 18th, 2008  
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But, goldfish like Rosy Reds (usually used as bait) usually stay small. Daily water changes will work for it.
That's true. Rosy Reds grow to only around 2 inches so I've been told. Also, I think they're a type of minnow, not a goldfish!

Miscommunication! Sorry, I usually think about the big bubble goldfish when I think of goldfish! hehe
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Old June 18th, 2008  
Fish Newbie
 
No idea how big the bowl is in galons... i'd say its about the size of a basketball, maybe a bit smaller?

Its blowing my mind a bit that fish shouldn't live in fishbowls...... whats up with that?
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Old June 18th, 2008  
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Aquariums don't have to be expensive. Walmart has a 10g kit that runs around $35.00-$40.00. To keep tropical fish you would also have to add a heater. You can also keep your eye on Craig's List and Freecycle. You can usually pick up a bargain, or better yet free.

The initial expense is well worth the price and health of your fish.
I agree with Lucy. Craigslist is an amazing place to get a used aquarium! Just make sure it's in good shape.

Also, sometimes fish don't have any "symptoms" before they die. They just up and die.
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Old June 18th, 2008  
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No idea how big the bowl is in galons... i'd say its about the size of a basketball, maybe a bit smaller?

Its blowing my mind a bit that fish shouldn't live in fishbowls...... whats up with that?
Like Lucy said, fish bowls are too small and they accumulate fish poo too fast, creating too much ammonia which will kill the fish. Also, it's really hard to keep a bowl heated to the correct temp.

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Old June 18th, 2008  
Fish Bum
 
Could you invest in a small betta tank? Like the five gallon plastic ones. You can usually find them under $15 with a filter and hood light. You can find great ones at yard sales, flea markets, etc. And you could get a mini-heater if you need one. (I don't use my heater at this time of year.) But, if you absolutely don't want a small tank try just one guppy and use a water conditioner.

I found one of these at a yard sale for a buck!



I gave it to my aunt for her betta.

Last edited by krazykid933; June 18th, 2008 at 06:01 PM.
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Old June 18th, 2008  
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I found one of these at a yard sale for a buck!

Ya gotta love how they show all those fish in the tanks in those ads.....soooo deceiving!

Wish I could find such a good deal.
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Old June 18th, 2008  
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Ya gotta love how they show all those fish in the tanks in those ads.....soooo deceiving!

Wish I could find such a good deal.
That's an awesome deal... I have the same 5 gallon and I thought I got a good deal at Walmart! HAHA

You know, I heard someone at Petsmart talking about how many fish they could put in their tank because of the picture on the outside of the box. I just shook my head because it was a store employee...
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Old June 18th, 2008  
Fish Newbie
 
Well guys, thanks for all the help -- i guess its just not meant to be At least we know why now...
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Old June 18th, 2008  
Fish Bum
 
Come to think of it I wish I still had that tank... I need to set up a QT.
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Old June 18th, 2008  
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Well guys, thanks for all the help -- i guess its just not meant to be At least we know why now...
Don't give up so quickly, it sounds like you'd really enjoy fish keeping. Just keep your eye out for a bargain. The right thing will come along.
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Old June 18th, 2008  
Fish Keeper
 
Putting fish in a bowl as their permanant home is rather cruel... especially since like others have mentioned here, guppies like warmer water and it's hard to accomodate a heater in a bowl (plus, it looks ugly, and I assume you like the idea of a bowl for the aesthetics as much as anything.) Unfortunately, fish aren't decorations -- they're living creatures with a need for space and comfort like anything else.
Do your pretty little companions a favor, please, and give them an aquarium, even a small one.
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