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Old January 21st, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
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Originally Posted by Je55*e View Post
Ok, idiotic question again: what is PPM? Parts per milliliter?
Parts per million. That's why I converted things to millilitres, it was easier to work in so many millilitres per million millilitres.

A 'millilitre' (mL) is one-one thousandth of a litre (there's a thousand millilitres in a litre). A gallon is 3.79 litres (L).

...that's too many millis in one post. Sorry

By the way no such thing as an idiotic question

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Old February 10th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
OP wrote "Also, you will need to add extra aeration via an air stone and air pump".
If I have live plants in the tank, do I still need to add the air stone/pump?
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Old February 10th, 2009  
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Ok, idiotic question again: what is ppm? Parts per milliliter?
should mean parts per million
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Old February 10th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
Thanks, Alex. Though... that's still confusing to me. Fractions? Oy^^;;;
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Old February 10th, 2009  
Fish Master
 
lol, yeah i'm not a math person......
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Old February 10th, 2009  
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OP wrote "Also, you will need to add extra aeration via an air stone and air pump".
If I have live plants in the tank, do I still need to add the air stone/pump?
depends how many, if it's really really heavily planted then probably not, but to be safe i'd add one anyways
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Old February 15th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
thanks for the info! time to start shopping for some ammonia now.
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Old February 21st, 2009  
Fish Bum
 
Not sure if this has been done here, but I think Ammonia brands should be listed along with how much of it was needed to get that initial 5-6 parts reading. I started a new tank today and things were as follows.......

20 Gallon Long
Ammonia Brand "Austin's Clear Ammonia"
Heavily planted tank with plenty of gravel
7.5ml raised the ammonia reading to what appeared just shy of 4 parts. I added an additional 2ml and it looks like things got pushed past 4 parts to a darker shade of green on API test. Colors jump from 4 to 8 on this kit.

So it appears that a starting point for a 20 gallon tank could be 10-11ml of the above brand.


I mention the heavily planted tank with plenty of gravel because it obviously takes up volume that could've been water, hence the amount of ammonia needed would be more if that stuff was not in place.

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Old March 17th, 2009  
Fish Bum
 
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At this point, your tank will probably look terrible with brown algae everywhere
As the algae begins to grow is there any benefit/jeopardy to the cycle if I add a few Nerite Snails to control the algae? Do high readings affect the snails?

EDIT: Google is my friend.

Water Quality
All freshwater invertebrates require good water quality in order to thrive. Most inverts will not accept poor water quality without deadly consequences soon after. Ammonia & nitrite should be zero and nitrate and phosphate in their low ranges.
As with all snails, Nerite snails need a pH above 7. Should the pH be lower than 7, i.e. acidic, this will cause their shells to corrode and dissolve into the water. Signs of acidity stress include flaky, pitted shells and deterioration of the shell spire. Another cause of these symptoms is lack of calcium. If you pH is greater than 7, and your snails are still showing signs of erosion, they may be lacking in calcium. Snailstrong Liquid Calcium is a simple and effective way to ensure your snails get enough of this essential mineral.

The above is copied from:http://www.snailshop.ashopcommerce.c...te-snail-.html

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Old March 28th, 2009  
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just found some good liquid ammonia at a Do It Best Hardware store.

Company that manufactures it is Z Force. "Extra Strength Ammonia" You have to give it the shake test cause it doesn't have an ingredients section on the label. I went ahead and looked up the MSDS on the company's website and it is good to go. It is also sold under the SunBrite label as well.

Also, WalMart's "Great Value" store brand has surfactants and is NOT suitable for cycling.
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Old May 8th, 2009  
Fish Bum
 
For those searching for a supply of ammonia and inoculating bacteria, here are what I have found:

ProLine® Ammonium Chloride
One and Only Freshwater 4oz - This is the successor to Bio Spira
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Old May 27th, 2009  
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Thanks for your easy to follow article. I am picking up tomorrow (sat-May-3rd-08) a 10 gallon tank (intend to use it as quarantine tank) to get started after 20 years out of the freshwater world.
I joined this place recently, so I will learn to do fishless cycling following your instructions (except for the heater, since I live in the tropics). I intend to do so with river sand and natural plants from day one. Then move up to 26 and 55 gal tanks.
Thanks again for your clarity since I have been overwhelmed with all the data available today -my previous know-how is obsolete!-
Jose Luis T (from Santo Domingo)
I still don't get it.
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Old June 6th, 2009  
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Ammonia can usually be found with cleaning products.
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Old June 9th, 2009  
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This sticky was getting rather crowded wih questions and complicated.

Most of the quesions have been moved to their own threads and moved here:
Aquarium Nitrogen Cycle
or here:
Beginners

If you have cycling questions, please start a new thread in one of the above links.

Thanks!
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Old September 4th, 2009  
Fish Bum
 
parts per million i believe
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Old November 1st, 2009  
Fish Bum
 
This article is great! I'm on my 4th week of cycling with the "add & wait" method and my nitrites are finally making a descent.
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