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Old March 13th, 2008  
Moderator ~ Betta Mommy
 
Snails are monstrous waste producers and crabs eat fish and shrimp can be lunch for some fish when they molt and lose their shells and yes they do count to a varying degree. Mostly by a lot. I would not plan on the first two at all and the latter is up to you but be prepared to need to replace them occasionally.

The flow of the water is not going to make a great change unless you have a torrent going and then it may make it hard for the bacteria to settle on anything. It may keep everything stirred to the point of keeping everything too unstable. I am not sure but it makes sense to me. A bit of movement should not hurt though as I know some tanks need movement to satisfy some of the inhabitants and it does not appear to upset the cycle but this is after the cycle is completed so you may want a steady flow but not a rapid one.

The filter wool on the power head thing as far as I have ever used it was to cut down on the amount of flow current to make it more manageable for the fish. This helps them get their "tank legs" so to speak in front of the filter outflow. It keeps them from being thrown when they swim in the direct line of the filter. Depending on the fish you choose for the tank though, the fish my enjoy the flow. This is done most often for fish who do not like strong flow. If Hatchet was referring to another purpose he will have to explain it. I do not know of another.

How are your readings coming? Is the cycle progressing to your satisfaction?

Rose
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Old March 14th, 2008  
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Hi!

Gold barbs are 3" - and need a school. I think not... I think keep the gouramis, as they are really pretty and fill up the 6" you have left after the Corys and Cardinals. Alternatively, you could get 3 Platys or 3 Guppys, but you could only get males.

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Old March 15th, 2008  
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rose thanks for the advice I decreased the flow a couple of days ago by slowing the air out put on the air wand,throttled back on the power heads and placed the out put of the cannister filter on top of the glass ledges inside the tank to create a slow flowing water fall instead of it belting out underwater and the result (this may be a coincidence) is the ammonia is now being processed nicely with the nitrites naturally increasing proportionally so im getting there steadily, i'm doing the add and wait method once again thanks for the in put.
Hatchet I was considering Mollies/Guppies in place of the Gourami's as I have definatly made my mind up with the Zebra's as they seem like an ideal starter fish for a newbie.
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Old March 15th, 2008  
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OK, swap Cardinals for Zebras. Mollies aren't as hardy as other livebearers. Platys are really handy to have around, exactly the same needs as guppies - and they are the biggest pig in the world! I have had numerous fish of both species and I'd choose Platys over gups anyday. Lol, I could never be without the platys bottomless stomach!

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Old March 15th, 2008  
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Just looked at my tank and yeah I can see a few Platys in there cheers Hatchet with your patience but we are getting there so now its going to be 6 Zebras 3 Platys 5 Julii's could I fit a clown pleco in there as well or a kuhli.
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Old March 16th, 2008  
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Yes, you could fit a Clown pleco in there! I advice against the khuli, as they prefer a sand substrate and in small numbers are really elusive and not really worth it most of the time.

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Old March 17th, 2008  
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Okay first day when all the ammonia has processed. Ntrites through the roof Nitrates through the roof now raising ammonia to 4-5ppm to feed the bacteria keep adding ammonia daily til all the Nitrites have cleared and ammonia is being processed in 12 hours then do a 90% water to deal with the Nitates......am I on the right lines?

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Old March 17th, 2008  
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Between the platys and clown pleco, you will have 4 heavy biolode producers. Just be sure of that and ready to vacuum a little more often as a result.
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Old March 17th, 2008  
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Between the platys and clown pleco, you will have 4 heavy biolode producers. Just be sure of that and ready to vacuum a little more often as a result.
Hi!

Yeah, platys do produce a fair amount of waste. Probably to do with the amount they eat!

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Old March 17th, 2008  
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If you have any driftwood in for the clown, his biolode will be nuts too! I feed 2 algae wafers to our BN and clown every other day, and let them eat off the tank and ornaments between wafer feeds.. clown comes out on that day, perches on the wood then proceeds to poop for about 2 hours! My daughter thinks it's hilarious. I think it's a chore! lol.
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Old March 17th, 2008  
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If you have any driftwood in for the clown, his biolode will be nuts too! I feed 2 algae wafers to our BN and clown every other day, and let them eat off the tank and ornaments between wafer feeds.. clown comes out on that day, perches on the wood then proceeds to poop for about 2 hours! My daughter thinks it's hilarious. I think it's a chore! lol.
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My BN gets a small amount of a wafer/pellet every other day, and cuccumber when I remember to remind mum to buy it.

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Old March 17th, 2008  
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Hi!

My BN gets a small amount of a wafer/pellet every other day, and cuccumber when I remember to remind mum to buy it.

We do Zucc a few times a week. They don't seem to like it on a regular basis. I put it in every other day it won't get touched. I do it once - twice a week and it's usually gone. I have to put 2 wafers, broken in to 8 total pieces ( 1 wafer = 4 quartered pieces) and scatter some on oneside of the tank as a distraction. The gouramis and guppys love the stuff, as well as the corys and yoyos!!!!! Even if I turn the lights off, come and check on things in an hour, gouramis, corys and yoyos are all piggin out on some wafer. I feed those hungry fools bloodworms every other day and flakes in between but they are ALWAYS hungry lol.

At any rate, Richard, you'll have fun watching the juliis and clown eat together
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Old March 17th, 2008  
Moderator ~ Betta Mommy
 
Yes you are on exactly the right track and I am sorry the folks have been goofing and not answering your questions here. The Clown Pleco is going to be fine. I have one and he is a darling and not that big a nuisance at all.

Yes I am so happy for you that the ammonia is at the stage that it is and the Nitrites are doing well and the Nitrates are sounding like they are just where they should be. Now you just follow the example you are planning that you stated and you should be fine.

Rose
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Old March 17th, 2008  
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Didn't realize I was goofing off? If it came through that way, sorry Richard. I was in no place to answer that question as I have only done the Bio-Spira route and that's all I know.
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Old March 18th, 2008  
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No worries I was picking up on the feeding tips any how, just been down my lfs and he advised me to do a 20% water change to dilute my tank a bit well as my Nitrates and Nitrites are very high, my tank has been processing 5ppm Ammonia in 6 hours!....hope his right and I havent messed the cycle up.
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Old March 18th, 2008  
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Hi!

Oh... I don't think we've taught you the idiot FLS guy thing yet. The LFS guy was wrong as usual, this might have made the cycle a bit longer!

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Old March 18th, 2008  
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No I think it hasnt made much of an effect i've still got very high Nitrites and Nitrates and the Ammonia is being processed well....a bit to well I suspect though im processing 5ppm in under 6 hours is this okay?
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Old March 18th, 2008  
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Sounds good!

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