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March 3rd, 2008
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Fish Mentor
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Hi!
Sounds good. Heard of any fish that you need lately? I'm asking for just money for this B'day - I'm hoping to muster enough for a decent sized used aquarium...
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March 3rd, 2008
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Fish Helper
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sorry mate i'm already giving enough to charity no offence good luck any =way any chance of someone giving me a 4 foot tank with a nice house over looking the sea!
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March 3rd, 2008
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Fish Helper
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sorry mate didt quite get your last..the last one I read seemed like.. you were asking for money...forgive if im wrong love to help but im poor. 
Last edited by richard7467; March 3rd, 2008 at 04:48 PM.
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March 3rd, 2008
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Moderator ~ Betta Mommy
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richard, I think Hatchet was only saying that this is what he was asking for at his birthday, not from you.
Hatchet, the link to timandkaren is on the following list: http://www.fishlore.com/fishforum/members/list/t1.html
The members list can be found above under Quick Links in the toolbar.
The ammonia you need to use is the type that does not have surfactants in it. It needs to be the type which does not bubble up when mixed with water. I have used ammonia to cycle before and it is regularly FAST.
I would not add a whole school of Cardinals as it will stress the new cycle. The only way I would consider it is to continue the treatment with ammonia for a week or so after the cycle is technically completed to allow for more bacteria to grow and become established and populate the tank so as to be able to handle the increased bioload. Then you may be able to get by with it. You could put the two FEMALE gouramis in the tank perhaps but not the male. He will have to wait until the last for sure. I just do not know enough about their territorial nature for females to know whether it would be a problem for you. I know that putting 3 cories in would work if you still plan on them. Then you could add the others when you get another couple of weeks in on the cycle. By the time you had 4 weeks in on the cycle you should be established enough to add the Cardinals (the whole school) and then another 2 weeks and you can add the Gouramis (all of them). Does that sound feasible? Cories do not have to be added all at one time to assimilate into a school. I have never had them have a problem with even having more than one type together. They all seem to get along together fine and love each other. I had Sterba's and Peppered Cories together and they got along fine and they were added one at a time.
Rose
 
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March 3rd, 2008
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Fish Helper
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I hear everything you are all saying(Hatchet sorry mate if i got the wrong end of the stick  ) Rose/Hatchet I love everything your saying its all good stuff call me if you want to, but i'm gonna have to find out for myself i'm not gonna add any fish for a while yet got to get my head properly sorted with the bacteria Nitrates/Nitrites and such (sounds stupid maybe) but I realy do need to understand this otherwise i'll get frustrated and ignorant so im going to continue with the add and wait method and get the tank firmly cycled does that make sense? (hope so) if I sound like i'm telling you to suck eggs forgive me once again all replies thankfully taken. 
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March 4th, 2008
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Fish Mentor
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Hi!
Rose, it's the male gouramis who like to take over. Female dwarfs are very placid, and so are males IF they are given females. It's what my experience tells me, I don't know if you've had different.
Here's my plan of what you should do:
1) Get the tank cycled, and get your head around water chemistry.
2) Add 2 female dwarf gouramis,
3) 3 weeks later, add the entire school of Cardinals,
4) 3 weeks later, add 3 Julii's,
5) 2 weeks later, add 3 Julii's,
6) 2 weeks later, add 1 Male dwarf gourami.
Don't worry - all donations are appreciated but not neccesary!
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March 4th, 2008
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Fish Helper
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you know what..i'm do exactly that Hatchet my nitrites are on the rise oh when I win the lottery i'll buy you the perfect set up of your wish 
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March 4th, 2008
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Fish Helper
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March 6th, 2008
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Moderator ~ Betta Mommy
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I read the post on the method you are using and it makes perfect sense up until the last sentence  so you are safe to go ahead with your plan. I will keep an eye out here and you can always let us know if you NEED help but I think you are doing very well on your own and maybe would like for us to bow out and let you have this accomplishment on your own.
Good luck and keep us informed of your progress, okay?
Some pictures would be nice sometime too, okay?
Rose

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March 6th, 2008
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Fish Helper
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yeah sure, i've added a little to much ammonia so i think the cycle may take a bit longer than i would have liked have to stay patient problem is my mind set for fish stock changes by the hour!!!!!!
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March 7th, 2008
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Fish Mentor
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Hi!
Stocking a tank is difficult... Tell you what, post up a thread and ask what other people's suggestions would be. That's a great way to stock a tank I find - get half the forum involved!
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March 8th, 2008
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Fish Helper
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hiya hatchet i just read your reply to one of my threads, am i reading you right? does a decrease in flow speed up the cycle cos if it does im gonna laugh at myself  'cos i,ve increased the flow thinking i'll be able to process more water that way hmmm  its like a scene from Niagra in my tank Marlyn Monroe would be proud!!! as to stocking I think i'd best wait and see, as you know i've still got along way to go.....I was thinking of starting a school of lakemalawiupsidedownglowlightdwarftbettabarbs but i just cant find any! know any one who's got some? 
Last edited by richard7467; March 8th, 2008 at 07:46 PM.
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March 9th, 2008
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Fish Mentor
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Hi!
Hmm, would that be Randomfishus thatdontexistus? I think I know someone who used to have them! Um, I don't think increasing in flow of current would speed up the cycle...(?)
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March 10th, 2008
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Fish Helper
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you metioned attaching a wool like filter to the out out going side of my power heads I imagine this would give me another place for bacteria to form is that the idea? im binning the idea of cardinals...gone of them replacing with long finned Zebras they seem a little more active. Do snails,crabs,shrimps etc count enter the fish stock calculations?
Last edited by richard7467; March 10th, 2008 at 04:10 AM.
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March 10th, 2008
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Fish Mentor
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Hi!
Zebras would seriously freak out the Gouramis. Cherry barbs and Harlequin rasboras are active, pretty and don't tend to scare gouramis to their graves!
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March 13th, 2008
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Fish Helper
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im gonna bin the gouramis with maybe some gold barbs
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