felixfefe

hello,
i was wondering if anyone could help me... I'm treating my 55gallon tank with ICH medicine. It said in the leaflet to do it for two days and not to feed them...Well it's been two days, the ich is the same, or worse, and now i'm gettng finns being eaten! What should i do?
Thanks,
felix

Butterfly

Im not sure which ich meds your using but fish can go as long as a week without eating. Did the treatment recommend raising the temperatue of the water?
A good way to treat ich is to raise the water temp to 82F for 14 days and do daily or every other day water changes and gravel vacuums.
Carol

felixfefe

yes, i have raised the temp as stated...But with the eating thing...I'm aware of the being able to go without for a week...But after two days, they've started eating eachother!
Anyway, ive given them some food today, and a bit later on i'm going to add more medicine to the grumpy tank, in the hopes that the ich will be remedied at some point in the near future! Ahh, they were so friendly before, get a bit ill or hungry and they start biting eachother to bits... Bit like me actually!!

fishaquarist

what type of fish are they? and what are you using to treat them now?

Butterfly

Are you sure their nipping each other and you don't have a case of finrot going on ?
Carol

felixfefe

10 cardinal neons, 2 ram cichlids, and 2 ghost shrimp. The finns disapeared over night..Does that happen with fin rot? Also, the rams are much more aggressive than usual. I'm using Faunamor ich treatment

LarryDavid

How sure are you that its ich..Could it possibly be whitespot?

Also for ich as butterfly said raising the temperature slightly over a week is the best thing to do an i dont think you should stop feeding them altogether..Sounds like nonsense to me

Butterfly

I'm not familiar with those meds. Finrot can slip up on you pretty fast and sometimes it seems like over night but I think you found the culprit when you said the Rams were more aggressive lately.
If your Rams are getting ready to spawn they will definately nip and possibly kill anyone coming close to them. I've had them chase full grown angels away from their chosen spawning site Could this be the case?
what size tank are we talking about?
Ich and Whitespot are the same disease known by two different names
Carol

felixfefe

thanks!
The tank is 55gallons... The rams really are aggressive compared to usual...It's a male and a female, and the female is particularly aggressive..I think it might be because they're ill....But would they be ready to spawn in such diseased conditions? She does have a pink belly though... They are actually being abit aggressive towards eachother...Not nipping or anything, but sort of "seeing eachother off" so to speak, in typical ram fashion. But they never did that before the illness

Butterfly

They could be getting ready
Carol

felixfefe

oh gawd...Eggs with white spot...More death! I'm not sure i can handle it!!

fishaquarist

what i would suggest is doing large waterchanges everyday 50% or so and go to your LFS and see what they suggest and dont go for the low price you get what you pay for. i have used one medicine for several different things i cant remember what it all it treated but it was called "clout" and it does amazing. also add some aquarium salt to the tank with the increase in temp. let me know how it goes

felixfefe

thanks mate, will do!

Butterfly

Clout is an extra strong med. The raised temps and frequent water changes for 14 days will get rid of Ich/whitespot. i really wouldn't mix meds.
Carol

felixfefe

oh, i meant, will keep yu'z posted! OOh, mixing meds? That's man's business is that! not for the fish hearted!

Butterfly

LOL!! if they spawn it will probably be a few days and the ich will be gone by then. Ram fry are extremely tiny and just adorable.
Carol

felixfefe

Oh, don't tempt me! I don't even wanna hope that that could happen....I wish it would though! LIFE! In my hands!!! hehe!

Butterfly

You would be surprised what you are capable of when you see those tiny babies being herded around by a parent.
Carol

felixfefe

I gave them another dose of the med earlier today... It's 3.25am here right now... I just had a look at them at they are really not looking good at all....At the bottom of the tank, the colour drained of them...But i've given them a 40-50% water change and they seem to be doing a bit better... I'm just trying to keep them alive right now, to be honest...Ive just been blowing through a tube to oxygenate the water a little bit( sounds stupid, i know, but i really want them to be ok + my air pump hasnt arrived yet) I'm actually afraid to go to bed, because ive had nightmares about finding them dead and fishing them out, and i really dont want that to happen...It's kind of like a drunken midnight vigil... Sad or what?...
Sad but true...Ah well, i'll just stay up and make sure they're ok and sit by the tank and will them to live! I think they'll be ok, as ive diluted the medication, ie poison, and maybe they got scared because the lights went on...What a big human brute i am! I just saw king kong...The woman in the gorillas hands...Like me and the fish...I just hope what efforts i make to keep them safe work, and i don't 'break' them...ugh

Butterfly

Please don't blow through a tube, your blowing co2 into the water. If you feel the need to aereate with out a bubbler dip water out in a pitcher and pour it back in slowly.
Carol

whetto

glad to hear everything is going better...i just got finished treating my tank for whitespot. my precious albino chocolate pleco looked like he had rolled around in sugar, and i lost a tiger barb, but other than that the meds, water changes, and raised temps did the trick. all my fish are lively and clean!! the main thing to remember is that its gonna look worse before it gets better, and even after the meds have run their prescribed course, be sure to leave the temps up for a full 14 days, even though its very tempting to lower them back down once your fishies look fine do NOT wash the filter under tap water, no mater how perfect it is...at least i wouldnt recommend it. when i put my filer cartridge back in a took some water from another cycled tank i have and poured it over the mesh part. any whitespot trapped in the filter should be taken care of once it starts sucking up the meds from the water. good luck!!

Butterfly

The chlorine in the tap water will kill the good bacteria in th filter.
"Just a few 'ickle spots-" ROFL Sounds like they are getting better as Whetto said keep those temps up for a full 14 days, don't want to have a relapse.
Carol