Beanz1927

fishrule101

I think sliver sharks are to agessvise to the others. Clowns need to be in groups( I think) so you 'll need at least a 55.

Beanz1927

thanks for the advice.

Steen16

you will need a 55 gallon (US) for these fish

silver sharks are not agressive and wont harm the other fish
but they grow very big Up to 13 inches (33 cm)

just check the bala shark profile

i know people with two loachs so you wont need to get a big group
but they do grow to 12 inches (30 cm) careful for ICH/ick

there may be problems as the sharks get bigger with the neons witch are small

jdhef

Also when getting a tank for Angels, they appreciate a taller tank since they get pretty tall. I another post, someone wanted to put a Clown Loach in a 60 gallon tank, and a member who goes by the name of HachettHaven said that it was not big enough, but recommended Yoyo Loaches instead.

Beanz1927

thanks for all the help. I'm off looking for a tank today.

Blub

Clown loaches get 30cm (12"/1 foot) long, and quite chunky. Combine that with a need for friends and your looking at 100gal +. Silver (Bala) sharks are a very similar story.

Full grown angels will devour neons. There are lots of other nice tetras though!

I'd get a 29gal (About 100 litres) tank, 1 Angel, 6 2" tetras f the same type, and 6 male Guppys. For the tetras I recommend serpaes, black neons, Black phantoms, Emperors or Glowlights. Or, you could swap out either the tetras or guppys for 3 YoYo or Zebra loaches, but it would require more maintainence.

Oh, and BTW, the 29gal with a stand will be about £200, but a 55gal (210 litres approx) without stand is about £200, but there are not many things strong and big enough apart from a stand that can support a 55gal.

Oh, and DON'T forget the nitrogen cycle: http://www.fishlore.com/NitrogenCycle.htm

Beanz1927

just found out that the floor in my attic isn't strong enough to support the 200L tank i had my mind set on.

Steen16

stink! as big tanks are great but you wouldnt want it going through the floor all stocked and full! lol gutted

MousePotato

If attic means the same thing in the U.K. as it means in the U.S., it probably isn't a good place to keep fish! Is this an insulated and climate controlled area?

Blub

If it was uninsulated, it would probably be OK if it had a top of the range heater.

MousePotato

What about summertime? Our attics get up around 5000 degrees, or so it feels.

Blub

Summertime doesn't actually exist anymore... It's more like the rainy season. Yesterday (5th sep) we got 2 weeks of rain in 1 day apparently!

MousePotato

Wow. Understood. We have two seasons - hot and hurricane. Hurricane runs from the end of April til the end of November. The rest of the time it's just warm and muggy.

I guess in your case a heater would be far more necessary than a chiller!

Blub

I spent almost my entire summer holidays indoors watching it rain. It was OK t the start (around June) but I think one of those electric heaters that are programmed to keep the water at a certain temp would work OK.

Beanz1927

My attic is completely insulated and i have my bedroom up there. Not that it matters now.

Blub

How come it doesn't matter? Don't forget Nano tanks - tiny tanks with tiny fish.

jdhef

Just out of curiosity, how do you know your floor can't handle the load?

Blub

There is some calculation you do... I don't actually know what calculation (my granddad did the ones for my tanks - he used to be a civil engineer) is though.