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Old August 8th, 2008  
Fish Bum
 
What Will Work?

I Have A 40gal Tank With 2 X Silver Sharks , 2 X Rainbow Sharks, 2 X Kuhli Loaches & 2 X Dory Catfish, I Wanted To Add 1 Or 2 More Fish I Was Thinking A Cichlid Of Some Sort But I Want Something Active They Will Work Into This Comminty, Does Any 1 Have Any Suggestions & Do I Have Room For More Fish
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Old August 8th, 2008  
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You are pretty much stocked, but if you wanted to add a cichlid that would fit the characteristics it would be an angelfish. This cannot be a small angelfish either. It must be at least 4 inches tall in order not to be picked on.
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Old August 8th, 2008  
Fish Keeper
 
I guess the "Silver Sharks" are Bala Sharks...they grow over a foot long each and you will not be able to keep them in this tank.
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Old August 8th, 2008  
Fish Bum
 
atm my bala sharks are only an ICH long and same with the rainbows i have a 300gal+ tank comming in about 3 weeks untill then they should be fine hey? angels you say ummm ok not really my thing any other suggestions im pretty new at this they dont have to be a cichlid
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Old August 8th, 2008  
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The rule of thumb is 1 inch of fish per gallon of water is what I have allways heard. That is also their adult size not what size they are now I am assuming they are juvenilles. To really check on the adult size you can look at the fish profiles it will tell you what the fish require as some fish will actually require more than 1 gallon per inch.
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Old August 17th, 2008  
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So JJ you would put a twenty inch arowana in a twenty gallon tank.
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Old August 17th, 2008  
Fish Keeper
 
Hmmm, I dont think he said that, in fact he mentioned some fish would need more than the 1 inch rule... now as for UNTAMED's question, your tank is wayyyyyy overstocked already so dont put anything else in until you get that 300 gallon
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Old August 17th, 2008  
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Quote:
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So JJ you would put a twenty inch arowana in a twenty gallon tank.
dont be rude
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Old August 17th, 2008  
Fish Master
 
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So JJ you would put a twenty inch arowana in a twenty gallon tank.
That rule does include minimum tank sizes and is fairly accurate when used sensably.
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Old August 17th, 2008  
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So JJ you would put a twenty inch arowana in a twenty gallon tank.
For SMALL fish and SMALL tanks it is the rule. For bigger fish it depends on the growth rate of the fish.
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Old August 17th, 2008  
Fish Keeper
 
its bacisaly alittle bit of a guide line mixed with common sense, and being respectfull of a fishes needs
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Old August 17th, 2008  
Fish Keeper
 
Heres the problem with the 1 inch rule... most people think it means if the fish is for example 20 inches long that it is 20 inches of fish....WRONG. For the correct measurement you have to factor in Length and Height and Width... so a 20 inch fish thats oh say 3 inches high and 3 inches wide would be calculated like this, 20 inches long times 3 inches high = 60 inches, now multiply this by the width, 60 total inches side surface area times 3 inches wide = 180 INCHES TOTAL FISH! The reason why the 1 inch rule works well with small fish is because most 1 inch long fish are not very wide or tall so overall they are only maybe 1.25 or 1.5 inches total fish.
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Old August 17th, 2008  
Fish Bum
 
Thanks everyone you have managed to confuse me!! nah i get what your saying thanks

Last edited by Butterfly; August 18th, 2008 at 01:56 PM. Reason: language
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Old August 17th, 2008  
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Easy...there's ladies and children present.
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Old August 18th, 2008  
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Thanks everyone you have managed to confuse me!! nah i get what your saying thanks
Untamed, it's ok to get mad, to feel anger, and let it out, but there's no need to behave like that. Hold your horses. Be a man.

This is an open forum. Not just for the youngsters or ladies. Personally, I'm 43, male, and I don't appreciate that language at all.

Fishlore is part of my life now, as for almost 8500 members, not counting guests visiting us. You -as me and everyone else around here- are wellcomed to be part of fishlore, but let's be respectful (trying is not enough).

Pepe
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Old August 18th, 2008  
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Untamed, it's ok to get mad, to feel anger, and let it out, but there's no need to behave like that. Hold your horses. Be a man.

This is an open forum. Not just for the youngsters or ladies. Personally, I'm 43, male, and I don't appreciate that language at all.

Fishlore is part of my life now, as for almost 8500 members, not counting guests visiting us. You -as me and everyone else around here- are wellcomed to be part of fishlore, but let's be respectful (trying is not enough).

Pepe
Santo Domingo
exactly, for the most part everyones friendly and kind, we all get nippy though. and besides you could get kicked off for that
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Old August 18th, 2008  
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Untamed I edited your post, please watch the language.
Although your sharks are small now they will need a larger tank soon. Corydoras catfish do better in larger groups. So that said, if I were going to add anymore fish right now it would be a couple of Corydora catfish and wait until the larger tank is ready to add more.
When stocking a tank it is a well advised aquarist that stocks for adult size specimens of what they put in. Anything can happen to prevent a larger tank happening when we want/need it.
Carol

Last edited by Butterfly; August 18th, 2008 at 02:31 PM.
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Old August 18th, 2008  
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The rule of thumb is 1 inch of fish per gallon of water is what I have allways heard. That is also their adult size not what size they are now I am assuming they are juvenilles. To really check on the adult size you can look at the fish profiles it will tell you what the fish require as some fish will actually require more than 1 gallon per inch.
If you read my original post I also said to read up on your fish profiles as some fish require more water than the 1 inch rule Oscars, Arawanas, Plecos, etc. most fish profiles list min. tank requirements for adult size of that fish sorry If I confused someone or gave bad advice but on fishlore this always someone with the correct information.
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Old August 18th, 2008  
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If you read my original post I also said to read up on your fish profiles as some fish require more water than the 1 inch rule Oscars, Arawanas, Plecos, etc. most fish profiles list min. tank requirements for adult size of that fish sorry If I confused someone or gave bad advice but on fishlore this always someone with the correct information.
You're exactly correct some fish can be stocked by the 1 inch per gallon guide line and we have to be aware there are others that cannot.
Body mass, waste production and temperament are other things that have to be considered. So research before buying is your friend. is a good thing to do. Some times you will hear conflicting information but if you continue to research you will see a pattern of care come out. There are some excellent sites out there for information.
If you have questions we will try to answer them without too much confusion
Carol
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Old September 17th, 2008  
Fish Bum
 
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untamed, It's Ok To Get Mad, To Feel Anger, And Let It Out, But There's No Need To Behave Like That. Hold Your Horses. Be A Man.

This Is An Open Forum. Not Just For The Youngsters Or Ladies. Personally, I'm 43, Male, And I Don't Appreciate That Language At All.

Fishlore Is Part Of My Life Now, As For Almost 8500 Members, Not Counting Guests Visiting Us. You -as Me And Everyone Else Around Here- Are Wellcomed To Be Part Of Fishlore, But Let's Be Respectful (trying Is Not Enough).

Pepe
Santo Domingo
Im Sorry Every1, I Trully Didnt Relise What I Had Written Sorry Bad Form On My Side, P.s I Was Never Mad Its Just How Us Aussies Talk
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