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Old March 8th, 2008  
Fish Lore Newbie
 
Newbie with 55 gal, need help!

Ok, so my hubby and I just got into the fishkeeping hobby and we need some advice. We bought a 55 gallon tank off a lady from Craigslist, and she had 3 black skirt tetras, 3 corys, 1 pleco, and 2 mollys. She had a rena XP1 as the filter.

When we got it home I cleaned out the aquarium and set it all up, added the water conditioner and I also bought Bio-spira since I read that it was good with cycling tanks. I knew we'd have help from the media in the filter since it still had her bacteria in it. Well it's been four weeks, and our ammonia levels are still almost 1ppm. I've used ammo-lock and it says that it doesn't remove ammonia, just changes it to the non toxic form. So how do I know when my ammonia tests wont be reading the ammo lock anymore?? Everything else seemed ok, the pH was 7.6, nitrites were 0 and nitrates were 10 PPM.

After a lot of research I realized that the rena xp1 was advertised as up to 45 gallons. Could the problem be that this isn't a big enough filter for this tank?? Also sometimes the fish go to the surface and gulp air and I asked at my LFS and they said that we may need more oxygen exchange. They recommended a powerhead to move the water at the top of the surface since my rena doesn't have a moveable jet head. I tried the spray bar, but it doesn't have much power to push the water out quick enough.

As I was researching a powerhead, I discovered the eheim filters and think I'm going to get one. What would you think about using an Eheim 2028 for the Biological filtration and getting a Magnum 350 for the chemical and mechanical? I think that upping the size of the filter will help this tank. If i do that, I won't need a powerhead because I can adjust the eheim to spray towards the surface right??

Also, how often are you supposed to do a water change. And how much water do you remove?? I've done two since I got the tank, but the ammonia didn't seem to go down much each time. I used my baby's bathtub that tells the temp of the water to make sure I"m putting water back in with the same temp and I conditioned it prior to putting it back in the tank. Do you have to get every little piece of debris out?? It just seems like there's all kinds of floating around when I use the gravel vacumn, and I hardly get any of it. I'd be vacumning forever to get it all!!

Ok if you made it this far thanks so much for reading and for your help. I really want to do all this the right way and learn at the same time.

Thanks!!
Aly

ETA: I found the Eheim 2028 with media on Big ALs site for 219.99 and the magnum 350 on petsmarts site for 69.99 with free ship. Are those good prices or can i get them cheaper elsewhere? Thanks!

Last edited by Proudmommy12; March 8th, 2008 at 09:57 PM.
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Old March 8th, 2008  
Fish Helper
 
Hi - I'm also new to the hobby so I don't have much to say about many of your questions. The experts here will help you out.

But I just finished cycling my tank and know that you need to keep doing the 25% water changes until your ammonia drops or you can lose your fish. You said you have done two water changes in four weeks? Maybe the ammonia will go down if you do daily water changes for a few days. I also have a 55 gallon tank so that was a lot of water each day - my husband helped carry it to save my back!

Since I didn't use bio spira I don't know the directions for using it but have read here that it has a certain time period where no chemicals are supposed to be added? Maybe the ammo lock has interfered with the bacteria?

The water changes are a lot of work, but the fish seem to say "thank you"!
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Old March 8th, 2008  
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someone who has used the Bio spira will correct me, but I think once you put it in you're not suppose to do a water change within so many days,,,Can't remember where I just read that... maybe 7 days. And I think it is because you are taking the good bacteria out before it gets seeded real good. You don't want to do the filter change until you are sure your tank is cycled. It would just mess with your bacteria more. Be patient, someone more experienced will help.
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Old March 8th, 2008  
Fish Lore Newbie
 
Thanks ladies!! I did wait 7 days before the first water change, then I waited two weeks for the second because I didn't want to mess up the good bacteria.

I just put the ammo lock in about 5 days ago, so it was in about three weeks after the bio spira so I hope it didnt' interfere.
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Old March 9th, 2008  
Fish Master
 
Hi!

Nah, you don't have to get all that gunk out. There's probably a lot from where the previous owner didn't vaccum. That stuff is producing ammonia, you know. Maybe, do 2 water changes (25%) a week for about a month to get that stuff out.

About your fish: Now, did you know Pleco will grow to around sixtey cm long? It's true! For this reason, you want to take him back to the LFS and exchange him for a bristlenose or clown pleco, who only gets 10-12cm long. Black skirts are schooling fish, and need to be kept in at least six to be truly happy. That goes for every other schooling fish in the galaxy. Corys do best in six's to - so up the cory and Black skirt count next. What about 8 BS's, and corys? Watch the mollies as well. If you have 1 male 1 female remove 1 or be overrun with fry! If they're both males, you'll want at least 1 more molly to prevent a bully-victim episode. I'd get 5 mollys as fish always look better in numbers. So, that would stock you: 8 Black skirts, six Corys, 5 Mollies and a Bristlenose pleco! Sounds like a pretty neat set-up.
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