Trpimp147

haha i hear you, i started with no tanks went to a 10g, now im going to a 75g haha many dead fish my cichlids attacked each other and killed a few plecos its a little nuts. i went from spending $0 to $700 in a month on fish andtanks and other items.

armadillo

Oh my god. You're kidding? 700 a month? Mind you, I must be coming close. We're mad, I tell ya, maaaad.

Trpimp147

haha yes and im still not done i only have 5 fish and the tank should beable to hold like 25 or fish or somthing like that. my tank is still pretty empty like only 3 rocks and 1 plant. thats it i need ike 3 times that yet.

armadillo

Are your rock made of gold, and is it a diamond tank?

Trpimp147

lava rock. its red kinda. my sub strate is river rock and sea shells for the pH.

armadillo

Oooooh, fancy!

Trpimp147

yup the cichlids requre vary high ph level like 8.2 and vary hard water. the sea shells raise the ph level, right now i have a peice of drift wood in the tank and thats sucking the ph out of the water so i have to add lime stone and some more sea shells. i still need alot more of rock the tank is so so empty. my 2 plecos love it i think they are about 6 inch long. i want them big because the cichlids will try and kill them so i want them alot bigger then my cichlids and they will be able to run faster.

armadillo

The mollies like hardish pH too (though slightly less hard), and it's annoying, as it makes any potentially problematic substance more toxic. Ah well, nothing I can do about it (aside from using Prime, that is).

Gunnie

You can also go to the carib sea website and take a look at the cichlid substrate. I think they also have one that is crush shells. This will help with your ph issue in your new tank. Also take a look at Texas holey rock which is limestone. The cichlids like to swim through it, and it keeps your ph higher.

Trpimp147

thanks for the info. the thing is i cant afford the holey rocks there like $100 per rock and there only like 35lbs and small.

COBettaCouple

that's a bit -- don't think we could buy one right now ourselves. it sounds like cool rock, though.

Trpimp147

http://www.txholeyrocks.com/home/
heres a great site for them cheap

COBettaCouple

yea, that's a pretty good priced site.

Trpimp147

yup he is vary nice he talks to me every now and then on another fish forum

Gunnie

Where are you located? You could try and find some for sale by other hobbyists in your area. Do you have a local club or association near by?

Trpimp147

nah im not in any club or any thing like that im right out side of gettysburg pa (battle feilds) i broke down and bought one 2 days ago should be at my house my friday or sat.