Nutter

No way that's a Jewel. The fins are all the wrong shape. Jewels have a rounded dorsal fin with no red stripe at the top & are african. This one is clearly american. Also definitley not a Severum. Not a JD. Body shape looks wrong to me for a Flowerhorn. I like the logic of Btate617 but arn't Veija's fairly small & peaceful on cichlid standards?
I would say a Red Terror but the dark speckles don't match & the larger spots don't quite match up either.
Put the hard word on the useless worker to find the paperwork on the fish. If he won't do that, tell him you want to buy it but want to be sure what it is first & that he should call the manager to find out or find out when the manager will next be in store. He probably comes in on certain days to do the bookwork. Tell him straight up, no fish ID, no sale. Money should get them motivated to find out what it is for you.

btate617

I don't know about that.....

Vieja Regani, about 14"
Vieja Hartwegi, around a foot
Vieja Argentea, probably the coolest of them all, males to about 12" pretty nasty fish.
Vieja Maculicauda, Black Belt, 16"
Vieja Bifasciatus, 14" or so
Vieja Synspilum 14-16"
All of these fish are pretty nasty and more than likely would kill off almost any tank mates.

I am not to sure about red terror (exCichlasoma Festae) or 'Cichlasoma' Uropthalmus (false red terror) as even at this size the mouth is already becoming somewhat pointed like a red devil's would be and you can start to see the black verticle stripping even if very faint.

Depending on price I would buy a few of them if your budget will allow, chances are no matter what they turn out to be if you have the room to house them they should turn out to be a great looking cichlid. My only concern, although I really don't think they are, is if they turn out to be a low grade looking flowerhorn.

Brian

Nutter

Thanks for clearing that up for me btate617. The books I was looking in had most of that family down as being under 6" & fairly peacefull. Except for the Black Belt which I already knew to be 12"+ & rather nasty. I've had them before. Beautiful fish but grumpy with anything & everything. Hence the reason why I don't pay much attention to books when it comes to fish profiles. I much prefer to get on forums & ask questions of people who have had the species before.

Nick Goody

What are Vieja? I mean the common names? I'm hopeless at the scientific names.

Slug

There are many types of Vieja, the most notorious of the group is probably the "Black Belt Cichlid"

Tropical Aquarist

It could be a Bolivian Ram, It is similar to a normal Ram Cichlid.

Nick Goody

Never heard of them. And I thought my knowledge of Cichlids was pretty good! Are they aggressive then?

peacemaker92

haha That's an interesting way I should be going there again either thursday or monday. I'll ask him for the list of fish names, they should have one since they have loads of different fish I've never seen before. If not, I'll probably just get the manager's contact number.

btate617

Typical Cental American cichlid Nick, so yes.

gunner13

Hi peacemaker, i think it is a juvenille TILAPIA MARIAE(sorry dnt know its common name) If you google it the markings are identical but being a juvenille it hasnt coloured up yet. Good luck identifying.
Nick

Also known as the SPOTTED TILAPIA. If you look at the head on the pic you took and compare it to the adults on google images you can see the vertical lines just starting to appear .
It is aggressive to over fish and gets to about 14 inches in the wild according to the fact sheet.

LuckyLooock

Cichli111Flowerhorn.jpg

I think this is it *FLOWER HORN*

CichlidKid55

hay,
i would say its a very young chocalate cichlid ( Hypselecara Temporalis )
they are quite aggresive to each other.
Just My
Good Luck

btate617

I don't think that is a chocolate cichlid, I have had many chocolate's over the years fom 1" up to 10" and finally got a pair back now. Just a note they also are one of the most docile cichlids out there.

Brian

josh11551

Definetly a cichlid maybe a jelly bean

peacemaker92

After days of researching, comparing photos and attempts of trying to get the store manager (failed), I have a few options. The fins matches the Pearl Cichlid. I also compared to googled photos of the Uaru Cichlid or known as the Chocolate Cichlid, and it also looks a bit the same. I also tried to match and compare between Gunner's suggested name, The Spotted Tilapia and it looks a bit the same too but the one in my photo is lighter... I'm SO confused! I've been trying to get the manager but he is never in. He's always either out or out of the country sometimes in Thailand or India bringing back more fish and rare bettas.

Nick Goody

It's not a Chocolate. Wrong head and mouth shape. This thread has been bugging me, I'm dying to know what it is!!!!!!!

peacemaker92

haha Sorry Nick. I'm currently dying just to get the manager. LOL I want those cichlids!

btate617

Hey Peacemaker.
It for sure is not a pearl cichlid (Geophagus Brasiliensis). Like the common name, pearl cichlid suggests, even a fish that size has many "sparkles" throughout the body, way different from the ones this fish is showing. Also the fin coloring is wrong.

Just a note here is why common names are confusing. You say it could be a Uaru also known as the chocolate cichlid. So we have Uaru Amphiacanthoides, and we also have Hypselecara Temporalis, also known as the chocolate cichlid. However this fish is neither of these choices, both of these "chocolate" cichlids are a brown to dull brown fish when small. The Uaru does get some blue spangling with age however it is not throughout the body like the fish in question.

If the manager is running a store surely he has an email.....maybe that way to contact him will work. Good luck.

Brian