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October 29th, 2009
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Originally Posted by CichlidKid55  hay,
i would say its a very young chocalate cichlid ( Hypselecara Temporalis )
they are quite aggresive to each other.
Just My 
Good Luck | I don't think that is a chocolate cichlid, I have had many chocolate's over the years fom 1" up to 10" and finally got a pair back now. Just a note they also are one of the most docile cichlids out there.
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November 1st, 2009
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| Definetly a cichlid maybe a jelly bean  | |
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November 5th, 2009
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| After days of researching, comparing photos and attempts of trying to get the store manager (failed), I have a few options. The fins matches the Pearl Cichlid. I also compared to googled photos of the Uaru Cichlid or known as the Chocolate Cichlid, and it also looks a bit the same. I also tried to match and compare between Gunner's suggested name, The Spotted Tilapia and it looks a bit the same too but the one in my photo is lighter... I'm SO confused!  I've been trying to get the manager but he is never in. He's always either out or out of the country sometimes in Thailand or India bringing back more fish and rare bettas. | |
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November 5th, 2009
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| It's not a Chocolate. Wrong head and mouth shape. This thread has been bugging me, I'm dying to know what it is!!!!!!! | |
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November 5th, 2009
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| haha Sorry Nick. I'm currently dying just to get the manager. LOL I want those cichlids!  | |
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November 5th, 2009
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Originally Posted by peacemaker92 After days of researching, comparing photos and attempts of trying to get the store manager (failed), I have a few options. The fins matches the Pearl Cichlid. I also compared to googled photos of the Uaru Cichlid or known as the Chocolate Cichlid, and it also looks a bit the same. I also tried to match and compare between Gunner's suggested name, The Spotted Tilapia and it looks a bit the same too but the one in my photo is lighter... I'm SO confused! I've been trying to get the manager but he is never in. He's always either out or out of the country sometimes in Thailand or India bringing back more fish and rare bettas. | Hey Peacemaker.
It for sure is not a pearl cichlid (Geophagus Brasiliensis). Like the common name, pearl cichlid suggests, even a fish that size has many "sparkles" throughout the body, way different from the ones this fish is showing. Also the fin coloring is wrong.
Just a note here is why common names are confusing. You say it could be a Uaru also known as the chocolate cichlid. So we have Uaru Amphiacanthoides, and we also have Hypselecara Temporalis, also known as the chocolate cichlid. However this fish is neither of these choices, both of these "chocolate" cichlids are a brown to dull brown fish when small. The Uaru does get some blue spangling with age however it is not throughout the body like the fish in question.
If the manager is running a store surely he has an email.....maybe that way to contact him will work. Good luck.
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November 5th, 2009
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| I recently saw a few bolivian rams. I think that it looks alot like them. If you could get a pic of its tail that might help alot. Hope you find out! | |
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November 6th, 2009
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| Definitely not a ram.
I'm still saying a Vieja until further proof comes. Any more pics by chance? | |
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November 6th, 2009
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| I would say Vieja as well, but its hard to say with the pic from that angle. Its definitely not a Chocolate. I have a juvie right now and your pic looks nothing like him. I hope you can get in touch with the manager soon. | |
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November 12th, 2009
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| Hi PM, i still say the SPOTTED TILAPIA. The one in your picture is lighter in colour because it's a juvenile.
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December 3rd, 2009
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| Okay. I know this thread is old and it's been a while. But I managed to go back to that LFS finally, and grab a sneak peek photo. I met the manager too but he's very anti-social and keeps to himself so didn't really get to talk to him. The worker there (he's really nice and helpful btw, from myanmar I think) approached me and pointed the fish to me and the name was written down on the glass. The fish was moved to another tank and still placed with dividers. He also noted that they are aggressive with each other. So here's the photos. Still have no idea what they are. The name that was written on the glass is V. Argentea. I'm guessing it's the species name.
P.S Hope the photos help, I couldn't get a better shot and it was a bit dark in the small store for my camera. | |
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December 3rd, 2009
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| Yep! V. Argentea = Vieja Argentea
He's turning out quite nice. I knew it all along!  | |
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December 3rd, 2009
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| Very well could be, if so I would buy some!
The only thing missing is the black horizontal line running across the face from eye to eye, and another one just above that one. It looks like it may be there just very very faint.
Like I said if thats what they are, an awesome fish, you should jump on them. You may not see them again for awhile. You will need a big tank, but if you get them and grow them out to full size you will be rewarded!
Brian
What a funny guy that Slug is...... | |
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December 3rd, 2009
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"What a funny guy that Slug is......""
LOL brian you should see the Wondering what everybody looks like thread LOL you'll think he's funnier!
very beautiful fish! i would kill to have one of those. I say go for it  i remember you saying you wanted a cichlid for your 55g...  | |
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December 4th, 2009
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| A Vieja? That's cool! I'm seriously up to it. Just need the tank   to Slug! haha
Yeah, I was thinking that, Tony, but my 55 gal right now is occupied by my tetras. Unless I just put the Vieja in the 55 gal with the tetras? 
(Vieja's a cichlid right? LOL) | |
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December 4th, 2009
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| btate really got it first, but I tacked on and agreed. hehe | |
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December 4th, 2009
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December 4th, 2009
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Originally Posted by Slug btate really got it first, but I tacked on and agreed. hehe | I might have said it first but I didn't really believe myself until Matt agreed! | |
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December 4th, 2009
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| Its' a very pretty fish indeed!!. But isn't it weird that it's missing the black bars on the head? .
Last edited by CHoffman; December 4th, 2009 at 08:12 PM.
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December 4th, 2009
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Originally Posted by CHoffman Its' a very pretty fish indeed!!. But isn't it weird that it's missing the black bars on the head? . | Thats what I said too CH.
Maybe they are stressed, he said they were all in one tank but divided for each single fish, maybe not enough space??
I haven't breed these guys yet so I don't know when the lines show up, but I have noticed them on others fish when they were fairly small.
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December 4th, 2009
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December 4th, 2009
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Originally Posted by CHoffman |
I don't know I haven't heard anything about this fish in a long time. I know some were showing up around 01-02 maybe, but like I said haven't heard anything about them in a long time.
Another thing that makes me think not those, is they were called Vieja Tuyrensis, then Cichlasome Tuyrensis, and I believe 4-5 years ago(not sure exactly when I would have to look it up) they put them in exCichlasoma Tuyrense.
So they will stay in exCichlosoma until they figure out which genus they belong to. I would think if they were showing up again or were a bit more popular in the hobby more work would be done on them at least to find the correct genus to throw them into. But they could very well be, and if so a more interesting fish as they just aren't found without lots of searching and looking.
They look exactly like V. Argentea minus the stripe from eye to eye so who knows, would be nice if peace goes and get some hint hint....
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December 4th, 2009
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| Very interesting. Sounds like it wouldn't be them then. Too bad though!. They are pretty whatever they are!. I did find the Argentea on aquabid for $6.50. They are smaller and from a retailer not a hobbyist and show signs of nipped fins but depending on the price of the ones at the LFS it might be worth it. | |
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December 4th, 2009
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| Spencer Jack got ahold of some here early in the year they were about 1.5 for $12.99.
He is normally 1/2 price of anywhere else in the city so normally I would expect them to be $20-25 each.
If you have the space Ch get some you won't be disappointed. I said it in another post recently, I think they are the second best looking (through their whole lives unlike most Centrals) and coolest Central out there.
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December 4th, 2009
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| Another note I would try and contact the person with them. Since it is a wholeseller try and find where they came from so you don't end up with some mixed Vieja, maybe I am being paranoid but you know how Vieja's are these days. | |
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December 4th, 2009
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| Hmmmm. I do have a 125 that could handle a few more....lol. | |
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December 4th, 2009
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| Depending on what is in the 125 you could kick a few out for these guys..... | |
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December 5th, 2009
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| Price set for it in Malaysian ringgit is RM65, which is basically about $19. Kinda expensive for me for 1 each. I was thinking maybe to slowly set up my 55 gal for it, then when it's ready and I have enough cash, I'll get a pair to start. Then in the years to come, I'll get a 125 gal. What you guys think? Quote:
Originally Posted by CHoffman | Hi CH!  I don't know, they all look the same to me.
Slug: "btate really got it first, but I tacked on and agreed. hehe"
I thank you Slug and btate
Last edited by peacemaker92; December 5th, 2009 at 01:37 AM.
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December 5th, 2009
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| You may be ok with them in the 55 for now for two reasons.
One they are fairly small. Two Centrals are normally slow growers, some taking 3 years to reach maturity.
The down side, once they hit 3.5-4" they will start to be aggressive, towards eachother more so than to other fish. The plan of a 125 in a few years I don't think these fish will be around to see it. I take that back one fish will be because he will have killed off the other. Most time people lose Centrals it is because of space issues. I incourage you to get these guys if you can they are a great fish, but you will need a better tank sooner than later.
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December 5th, 2009
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Originally Posted by btate617 You may be ok with them in the 55 for now for two reasons.
One they are fairly small. Two Centrals are normally slow growers, some taking 3 years to reach maturity.
The down side, once they hit 3.5-4" they will start to be aggressive, towards eachother more so than to other fish. The plan of a 125 in a few years I don't think these fish will be around to see it. I take that back one fish will be because he will have killed off the other. Most time people lose Centrals it is because of space issues. I incourage you to get these guys if you can they are a great fish, but you will need a better tank sooner than later.
Brian | Ok. Then would it be ok if I get one? Then keep some other fish at the same size with it. If any signs of aggression appear, I'll have an extra tank to get them out. | |
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