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April 22nd, 2009
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| | Fish Bum
| they are red pacus | 
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April 22nd, 2009
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| | Fish Keeper
| couldn't I at least keep em for a little while? until they got bigger? they seem alright at the moment, I only have 3 other fish in there, a tiny frog and my pleco
which comes up to a total length of 13" which means there are 16 gallons of unused space.
so add the new fish onto that (5" and 3-4"), that leaves about 7 gallons of free space to grow for the new big ones, since all my other fish are fully grown.
it won't hurt them will it? FOUR of them were crammed in a 10 gallon at the LFS, and almost all of there other tanks were empty, which tells me that no one had bought them out of all there other stock for at least 1 week, UNLESS someone decided they were too big for their own tank and brought them back, but IDK. | |
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April 22nd, 2009
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| | Fish Keeper
| also, I don't know if this helps or is completely irrelevant, but they DO blink, so they have eye lids or something, which I thought was weird. | |
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April 22nd, 2009
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| | Fish Master
| Quote:
Originally Posted by Kayin1470  couldn't I at least keep em for a little while? until they got bigger? they seem alright at the moment, I only have 3 other fish in there, a tiny frog and my pleco
which comes up to a total length of 13" which means there are 16 gallons of unused space.
so add the new fish onto that (5" and 3-4"), that leaves about 7 gallons of free space to grow for the new big ones, since all my other fish are fully grown.
it won't hurt them will it? FOUR of them were crammed in a 10 gallon at the LFS, and almost all of there other tanks were empty, which tells me that no one had bought them out of all there other stock for at least 1 week, UNLESS someone decided they were too big for their own tank and brought them back, but IDK. | Yikes..I bet the water in their tank was nasty..Did it appear that the LFS took good care of the fish..as far as clean tanks, dead fish. Maybe since they have all the empty tanks they will give them a bit more room.
IF your not comfortable with taking them back try to find an appropriate home for them on craigslist. Just make sure the person buying them is a knowledgeable fish keeper and has the tank space. | |
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April 22nd, 2009
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Originally Posted by CHoffman Yikes..I bet the water in their tank was nasty..Did it appear that the LFS took good care of the fish..as far as clean tanks, dead fish. Maybe since they have all the empty tanks they will give them a bit more room.
IF your not comfortable with taking them back try to find an appropriate home for them on craigslist. Just make sure the person buying them is a knowledgeable fish keeper and has the tank space. | the tank was filthy, you could barely even see threw the glass in there tank, so much algae and scum build up. there were dead fish in other tanks that the others were eating, THEY HAD LIKE 10 RED DWARF GOURAMIS TOGETHER! they were fighting and the other fish they were with were picking on them too, pretty sad. | |
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April 22nd, 2009
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| either way they are going to be big kids...and deffinately need a larger tank...the one big boy now already looks timid enough ...and if they are a pacu or silver dollar, both are usually huge eaters and by now they should be wanting food 24/7 ..how are they doing today? | |
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April 22nd, 2009
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| | Fish Keeper
| Just got off the phone with former colleagues (breeder, farmer) and asked about Siver Pacu thinking something new in my absence. Hardy Ha! No such thing!!
Definitely not Red Hook (M. rubripinnis) since it's missing Red Hook (anal fin) which gives its common name.
Whatever it may be, they are nice! Hopefully, they will show more characteristics which may asist in IDg as they grow.
btw, Pacu I am referring is Colossoma Sp.which has darker gray body color even at 2-3"" and seen juvie patterns (spots) occassionally but very seldom.
Mylossoma/Metynnis/Myleus are NOT condidered as Pacu in Fish industry.
I wouldnt give up such rare/gorgeous specimen yet although do agree in accommodating in larger/longer tank. | |
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April 22nd, 2009
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| Quote:
Originally Posted by cerianthus Just got off the phone with former colleagues (breeder, farmer) and asked about Siver Pacu thinking something new in my absence. Hardy Ha! No such thing!!
Definitely not Red Hook (M. rubripinnis) since it's missing Red Hook (anal fin) which gives its common name.
Whatever it may be, they are nice! Hopefully, they will show more characteristics which may asist in IDg as they grow.
btw, Pacu I am referring is Colossoma Sp.which has darker gray body color even at 2-3"" and seen juvie patterns (spots) occassionally but very seldom.
Mylossoma/Metynnis/Myleus are NOT condidered as Pacu in Fish industry.
I wouldnt give up such rare/gorgeous specimen yet although do agree in accommodating in larger/longer tank. | Very interesting and thanks for checking it out.
The RedHook Pacu, is a Myleus Rubripinnis. So Myleus is indeed a Pacu. I did not think the above fish was a red hook btw, just wanted to use that one as an example of a silver colored Pacu.
I will accept that your colleagues have much more experience and knowledge than I on the Pacu tho.
Yes, the Colossoma Sp has the darker grey body.. But I did not think the above Pacu was a Colossoma due to the lack of the grey body coloring. I have seen the red belly Pacu at a number of fish stores and they were silver in body coloring. | |
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April 22nd, 2009
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| | Fish Keeper
| THEY HAVEN'T BEEN EATING ANYTHINNNNGGGGG what do I do? it's been over 40 hours since they went into the tank! how do I get them to eat! do I need to open there mouths and shove lettuce in  GRAAAAHHH EEEAAAAAAAAAATTT | |
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April 22nd, 2009
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| like seriously, I'm starting to get worried could someone please respond. | |
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April 22nd, 2009
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| | Fish Master
| Have you tried other types of food? | |
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April 22nd, 2009
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| Hi Kayin..
Ive been away from the pc...
First off, what have you tried feeding them? | |
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April 22nd, 2009
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| okay here is a list:
1. Omega One natural protein formula, freshwater flakes
2. Cucumber slice
3. Romaine lettuce
4. Freeze Dried TUBIFEX WORMS
EDIT* the tubifex worms are also OMEGA ONE brand.
Last edited by Kayin1470; April 22nd, 2009 at 08:44 PM.
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April 22nd, 2009
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| Hi kayin
it looks like you have all the bases covered. Im not sure why your fish are not eating unless they still have to acclimate to their new surroundings.
Its scary when the fish dont eat and we have no idea why, I had a Discus that did the same thing and it seemed to last for five days til it finally started to eat.
Just keep trying to feed them and eventually hopefully they will get hungry enough and will eat.
Have you done a water test since you brought them home? Water changes? With the pleco as well, that tank is going to get polluted quickly.
Maybe others can give you some tips on what to try feeding them.
Best of luck. | |
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April 22nd, 2009
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| | Fish Keeper
| alright, there was a massive water change about 3 days prior to getting them, probably about 70%, because I had to move the tank, I'll go ahead and do a parameter test. | |
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April 22nd, 2009
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| ok.. let us know how it goes...  | |
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April 23rd, 2009
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| | Fish Mentor
| I'm thinking silver dollar. I googled silver dollar fish images and found a couple that look like yours.
Live aquaria has them for sale: http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...22&pcatid=2522
Badman's tropical fish has several pictures - looks like there is a wide variety in their coloring and markings. Scroll down and click on 'additional species photographs': http://badmanstropicalfish.com/profiles/profile23.html
If this is what they are, the websites all say that they love green foliage/plants. Maybe try some romaine lettuce anchored by the stem so it stands up like it is growing? | |
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