Brislions

I needs some help. Not sure what this African is.

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soldieroffortune1974

That looks like a Jack Dempsey,a very beautiful 1 too.

Welcome to Fishlore.

Brislions

It's not a Jack Dempsey. I think it African of some type. Light blue body with orange fins with orange egg spots on Anal fin.

Lucy

Hi welcome to Fish Lore

Perhaps this will help:

http://cichlidforum.com/articles/afr...us_gallery.php

Brislions

Thanks Lucy. It looks like it is a Metriaclima greshakei "ice Blue"

Angela_96

I really do not think that it is a Ice Blue, I have an extra large (4 inch) Ice blue and that isn't his coloration. Actually I have a whole breeding group of greyshaki's. Your cichlids is a Red Top Zebra, http://www.cichlid-forum.com/profile...es.php?id=1790

They are very close in coloration, the red top zebras top fins just are more prominent in the darker orange coloration.

Here is a pic (older pic) of my greyshaki male:

Brislions

I had a look at the Red Top Zebra, the colours are to dark.

http://www.cichlid-forum.com/profile...ies.php?id=794

this one looks like mine.

soldieroffortune1974

It doesnt really look like yours. Yours the face is more protruded and the body is thinner,and the dorsal fin isn't as large. The coloration is almost right,it could be a type of zebra,but I dont think it's a greyshakei.

Angela_96

The colors in the pic on the cichild forum are not as light as you would think they should be. I will guarentee that yours is not a greyshaki. I have kept and bred cichilds for a long time now.

Allie

That is exactly what it is. Looks like some of the ones I had here last year.
http://www.cichlid-forum.com/profile...ies.php?id=794



Juvies


The males look different according to dominance...a dominant greyshakei is ice blue.

Male red tops are dark from fry/juvies.

Your fish looks like a male acei musili
the second one you click on....
http://www.cichlid-forum.com/profile...es.php?id=1460

Brislions

Thanks Allie. When I was looking at photo's the 10 photo down look so much like mine.

Allie

You are welcome. They get pretty aggressive when in breeding mode and can get 5-6" depending on how big of a tank they are in. We got rid of our assorted sized greshakeis b/c they were too aggressive for the other species we wanted to keep. I love the look of a dominant male greyshakei.
They are super common around here so the fry is not easy to get rid of anywhere.

Angela_96

That was a juvi pic of my greyshaki. He is a lot lighter now. I know for a fact that he is a greyshaki, he came from a very reliable breeder.

sirdarksol

The fact that I'm looking at the pics and am thinking "I could see that as being either," suggests to me that African's aren't easy to identify. Unless you've got 20+ years of dealing with all of the different kinds of Africans, I would have to say that positive ID through a few photos is going to be difficult.
It would be best for all parties to remember that their opinion in the matter is just that: opinion. Everybody has been doing pretty well here: posting their opinion and the reasons for believing such. That's all we need to do in situations like this. It isn't a clear-cut scenario, so the best we can do is give Brislions a direction to go searching in for better information, and work from there.

Allie

If you have kept Africans you would see the difference. Pictures are totally deceiving compared to in person. Our dom greshaki was 5-6" and and was told he was a perfect male specimin. I have been studying these fish since I got into the hobby over 2.5 years ago and know lots of people who have kept them. I don't comment on things I don't know anything about.
Let see a pix of your greshakei now stevenangela...
Google image them...you'll that non looks like yours did in that pix.
http://images.google.ca/images?hl=en...num=1&ct=title

Angela_96

Commenting on something and completly being rude to others on a subject is another. Google images? Yeah thats a good resource, did you see the pictures of the red zebras along with the greyshaki pics? Here is a picture I just took of my greyshaki male the older mature one on the right, a younger one on the left that I raised from a fry size I will have to get rid of since I have 2 males. He does turn a white/blue color during spawning time and when being aggressive. That picture was taken in June that I posted above, look at my profile, that pic has been in there for months.

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Lucy

After this post, I'll be locking this thread.
Brislions asked for help in IDing his fish.
He was given a few choices to help him along and had decided which is his fish.

I see no reason to continue challanging each other as to who is correct at this point.