heartsongsinger

What kind of plecos are these guys?

The first two are of the same fish. The third is of another, I think it might be a clown pleco

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Butterfly

I believe the first one is Pterygoplichthys gibbiceps
http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog...species_id=148
The third looks like a common except for the lyre tail.
Carol

mathas

How large are they, and how long have you had them?

The third picture doesn't really look like a clown pleco (Panaque maccus) to me. The stripes aren't pronounced enough, and I've never seen a clown with a spotted head. Click here for some pictures of clown plecos... they don't seem to be the same as what you've posted.

heartsongsinger

The first one is about 3 - 4" and I've had him in a 10 gal for about a year. The second is about 5 - 7" and I've had him in a 47 gal for about 6 months. The pic of the second is an extreme close up, my dad's camera has a sweet zoom. Ok then the petstore had the tank labled wrong. I was there today and I saw some small ones that look like him and they were marked as being clown pleco, and they definatly don't look like those pics of the clown plecos

mathas

If Butterfly is right, that fish will get way too large for a 10g tank without becoming stunted and dying early. My initial guess would have been a different memeber of the Pterygoplichthys genus, Pterygoplichthys pardalis, but looking at your pictures and the ones she linked to, I think her guess is better than mine would have been.

Or we could both be wrong!

If your pleco is 7", it's likely not a clown

That's the big problem with common names for plecos... one store decides to call something by the wrong name (or is misinformed by their distributor), and now any customer that purchases one believes they have a species other than what they actually have.

Butterfly

I know this is going to sound really technical but bear with me. If when they hold their dorsal fin straight up and you can count the spines(looks like really thin bones holding the fin up), if they have 10 or more they belong to the Pterygoplichthys family
http://planetcatfish.com/catelog/genus.php?genus_id=6
If they have 8 or less they belong to another another pleco family such as these
http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog...enus_id=17#643
The last looks kind of this one
http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog...?image_id=2251
Just some thoughts
Carol

heartsongsinger

Thanks. I'm currently very slowly trying to warm my mom up to the idea of a tank in the dinning room. If I get it he'll move.

butterfly the color doesn't quite match the second one but it works for me.

Allie

Those look like plain old sail fin plecos....common plecos with taller fins.

heartsongsinger

which one allie? pleco 1 or 2?

platy ben

first 1 i think is a young leopard/sailfin pleco, they canget 40cm long

heartsongsinger

yep he's definatly going to find a new home.