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Old May 12th, 2008  
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Urgent -- Is this really a SAE?

My local Petsmart has a tank full of "Algae Eaters" -- mostly CAEs and about anything that looks somewhat like them. I've been having a hair algae problem starting, and I *think* I found a Siamese Algae Eater...but I'm not sure. The person at the store claimed it was a Flying Fox, but I think she's wrong...anyway it's here now (it was the only one), and is still in it's bag...I'm trying to ID it for sure while acclimating it and before letting it out (those guys are buggers to catch), and need the wisdom of Fish Lore!

oh P.S. I thought it was a SAE based off this site: http://www.thekrib.com/Fish/Algae-Eaters/ ... this site was great but is no substitute for having seen the real thing, which I haven't (at least, not for sure).

The best pics I could get in the bag:




Thanks for any and all help!

EDIT: he's about 1.5" long right now, if that helps.
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Old May 12th, 2008  
Tom
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In all honesty, it doesn't look like any of the SAEs I've seen around here. Sorry, but someone else might come and dissagree with my statement.
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Old May 12th, 2008  
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My local Petsmart has a tank full of "Algae Eaters" -- mostly CAEs and about anything that looks somewhat like them. I've been having a hair algae problem starting, and I *think* I found a Siamese Algae Eater...but I'm not sure. The person at the store claimed it was a Flying Fox, but I think she's wrong...anyway it's here now (it was the only one), and is still in it's bag...I'm trying to ID it for sure while acclimating it and before letting it out (those guys are buggers to catch), and need the wisdom of Fish Lore!

oh P.S. I thought it was a SAE based off this site: http://www.thekrib.com/Fish/Algae-Eaters/ ... this site was great but is no substitute for having seen the real thing, which I haven't (at least, not for sure).

The best pics I could get in the bag:




Thanks for any and all help!

EDIT: he's about 1.5" long right now, if that helps.
heres my sae see the color going all the way thru his tail? and all the way up to his nose? thats how I tell the difference...IMO its not a SAE
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Old May 12th, 2008  
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This might help: http://www.fishlore.com/aquariummaga...e-eater-id.htm
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Old May 13th, 2008  
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Hm, I wonder what he is then? He doesn't really match the descriptions for the Flying Fox...maybe he's a False Siamensis, but he doesn't have the stripe above his black stripe. He's zipping around a tank now, so I don't know if I'll be able to do and barbel-counting, but I'll try.

It washed out in the pics for some reason, but the black actually does go all the way to the end of this tail, though it's not as distinct as Shawnie's, for sure.

Last edited by Shaina; May 13th, 2008 at 09:19 AM.
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Old May 17th, 2008  
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My SAEs look alot like that.

http://www.thekrib.com/Fish/Algae-Eaters/ has some good diagrams. I'd say SAE.
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Old May 17th, 2008  
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I think SAE as well
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Old May 19th, 2008  
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I'm thinking SAE as well, especially as he gained more color (bagging stress and all that). Few more updated pics...had to add him to the 29 gal a bit earlier than I wanted to, since I had to take down the spare 10 gal (piece of furniture it was on didn't appreciate having an aquarium on it).

Still large, so it's easier to see detail on him:







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Old May 19th, 2008  
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im changing my views also..its deffinately an SAE ..see how they rest on their tails?? big giveaways...CONGRATS ...
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Old May 20th, 2008  
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im changing my views also..its deffinately an SAE ..see how they rest on their tails?? big giveaways...CONGRATS ...
Hurray! I hope you guys are right. I've caught him happily munching on hair algae a few times, and he loves darting through the grasses in the back of the tank, so whatever he is he seems to be enjoying his new home.

I'm maneuvering for a 90 gal within a year or so, so hopefully he's okay without SAE friends until then...

Thank you guys so much for your help!

Last edited by Shaina; May 20th, 2008 at 09:50 AM.
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Old May 21st, 2008  
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It is a SAE as i have one in my tank. You have to watch out for the flying fox as they can be pretty agressive. Thats why I went with the SAE & not the fox. You did good with the SAE as there great little algae eaters.
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Old May 23rd, 2008  
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It is a SAE as i have one in my tank. You have to watch out for the flying fox as they can be pretty agressive. Thats why I went with the SAE & not the fox. You did good with the SAE as there great little algae eaters.
Thanks I'm really excited about him. He's pretty small right now, and seems to think he's one of the Otos...he's rarely more than 3" or so from the nearest Oto

I'm already planning on putting a few in my bigger tank, which is still in the planning stages. I understand they prefer to be in small groups -- is that true, do you know?
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Old May 26th, 2008  
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SAEs do like to be in groups.
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Old May 26th, 2008  
Jim
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Looking at the pics in the tank, not the first ones, it is definitly a true SAE, and a beauty! I have 6, and I'm the guy that wrote the article in last month's on-line mag on how to identify them.
But even without looking closely, between what Shawnie says about it resting, and the fact it hangs with the otos (as do mine) I could tell you it is a true one without looking closely.
Cherish it, and definitly buy it some friends!

Last edited by Jim; May 26th, 2008 at 09:05 AM.
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Old May 26th, 2008  
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SAEs do like to be in groups.
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Looking at the pics in the tank, not the first ones, it is definitly a true SAE, and a beauty! I have 6, and I'm the guy that wrote the article in last month's on-line mag on how to identify them.
But even without looking closely, between what Shawnie says about it resting, and the fact it hangs with the otos (as do mine) I could tell you it is a true one without looking closely.
Cherish it, and definitly buy it some friends!
Thanks for the info -- I'm on the lookout for a bigger tank and more SAEs -- this is the first one I've seen locally, so I may end up trying to find them online, which I'd rather not do...makes me nervous buying such an easily confused fish sight unseen...
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Old May 26th, 2008  
Jim
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Thanks for the info -- I'm on the lookout for a bigger tank and more SAEs -- this is the first one I've seen locally, so I may end up trying to find them online, which I'd rather not do...makes me nervous buying such an easily confused fish sight unseen...
Smart girl, that's the reason I won't buy them on-line, for fear of ending up with Chinese instead of Siamese.
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Old May 26th, 2008  
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Smart girl, that's the reason I won't buy them on-line, for fear of ending up with Chinese instead of Siamese.
Right...or even a bunch of Flying Fox. My MTS is growing, but my pocketbook can only handle so much growth at a time, and housing 4 or so FF's in separate tanks big enough for them would really break the budget...

This just gives me a reason to stop in to the stores even more frequently
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Old September 21st, 2008  
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Looks like a Flying Fox, but not an SAE really close though!
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