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April 5th, 2008
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| New Dwarf Cichlids.. plz help ID?
Well I went out looking for keyhole cichlids today, but they didnt have any. BUT as some of you know, I love the d.cichlids and they are ordering me some GBRs which I am pretty happy about. But, I saw these d.cichlids that I was told are Bolivians. But looking at photos of Bolivians I cannot ID these fish. Most Bolivians I saw did not have the spot at the caudal fin as these do.Also with the gorgeous blue specks throughout the tail and dorsal fins and black stripes I have no idea what they are.  PLLEEEZE dont tell me that one of these is a baby jack dempsey lol.... cuz it sure looks like one?  I cannot get a photo of the female with the red belly yet, she is pretty shy but when I can I will add her photo.
Anyone have any clue what these are? I was told they are apistogrammas but im not sure?
thanks, ~ kate | 
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April 5th, 2008
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Originally Posted by capekate  Well I went out looking for keyhole cichlids today, but they didnt have any. BUT as some of you know, I love the d.cichlids and they are ordering me some GBRs which I am pretty happy about. But, I saw these d.cichlids that I was told are Bolivians. But looking at photos of Bolivians I cannot ID these fish. Most Bolivians I saw did not have the spot at the caudal fin as these do.Also with the gorgeous blue specks throughout the tail and dorsal fins and black stripes I have no idea what they are. PLLEEEZE dont tell me that one of these is a baby jack dempsey lol.... cuz it sure looks like one? I cannot get a photo of the female with the red belly yet, she is pretty shy but when I can I will add her photo.
Anyone have any clue what these are? I was told they are apistogrammas but im not sure?
thanks, ~ kate | ah kate, I wont tell ya , BUT....they do look like my baby jacks ...i sowwy hun...great lookin fish tho! baby jack .... http://z.about.com/d/freshaquarium/1...cichlids30.jpg
Last edited by Shawnie; April 5th, 2008 at 06:32 PM.
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April 5th, 2008
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April 5th, 2008
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| LOL I still think the last pic is a JD...he so looks like my baby did...and the blue comes out as they get older... but ive been wrong many times in my life, this wouldnt be the last im sure  | |
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April 5th, 2008
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Originally Posted by Shawnie LOL I still think the last pic is a JD...he so looks like my baby did...and the blue comes out as they get older... but ive been wrong many times in my life, this wouldnt be the last im sure | Actually they look like 3 different fish. One being the JD, the last pix.
I think you need to call that store & tell them you have everything but the Bolivian Ram. | |
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April 5th, 2008
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| how about one being a green terror?? sorta kinda maybe? | |
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April 5th, 2008
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Originally Posted by Shawnie how about one being a green terror?? sorta kinda maybe? | Nope...they are more orange and very mean. We had a 3 inch one last year and he killed or beat up anything in his sight. But him with a tank of convicts the next I found him on the floor. The convicts we too much for him. Karma for the little meanie. | |
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April 5th, 2008
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| Thanks so much for all your help folks!  Carol: your link on the apisto Commbrae looks like the little one in my photo. Its very possible that they are the same kind. Shawnie: Your lil JD is a cutie pie and sure does look like the other two photos I posted. If it wasnt for the lack of black vertical lines like mine, I would really have to re think if it were a JD! YIKES.. tho they are gorgeous fish, just not what I planned on having in my tank! lol.. guess only time will tell? Allie:
thanks so much for the link.. I checked out the photos of the Pulchers, my fish have the caudal black spot that the Pulchers lack.. other than that, they look a lot alike.
Thank you so much for looking up these fish species for me. I really appreciate it. Maybe my three guys are all morph d. cichlids and were inter bred with other dwarfs?  Wish I knew for sure... but its possible.
They are doing great.. and I am enjoying watching them in the tank.
I also picked up two turquoise blue rainbows while I was there. 
Ahhh.. a great day for fish shopping.. and cant wait to be able to add some GBRs in a week or so.
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April 5th, 2008
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| I did look at some photos of the Green Texas cichlid.. and they did look alike too. hmmm... but for those very dark vertical lines, that really are not lines but look almost more mottled black wavy designs.. I really have no clue! | |
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April 5th, 2008
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|  CLUELESS IN FISHLORE! | |
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Originally Posted by Shawnie CLUELESS IN FISHLORE! | If we could only see them in person. Pix can be deceiving sometimes.   | |
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April 5th, 2008
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| hmmmm closest thing to in person is a video of them swimming around!
I will do that tomorrow after my husband goes in for some over time work. lol... The tank is in the living room where the tv is... and he hates it when I get in the way with the camera lol.... plus I would tell him that we have to turn down the volume and hes not going to go for that. haha...
Yessss Shawnie... I am clueless in Fishlore lol... btw, lol, my husband said.. who cares what kind they are? They are cool looking....  He just doesnt understand... WE want to know what kind of fish we have in our tanks, and it will drive me crazy til I figure it out lol...  | |
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April 5th, 2008
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| Their definitely not Bolivians  but still beauties.
carol
Turquoise Rainbows? You lucky woman. They want your first born child for those here.
Carol
Last edited by capekate; April 6th, 2008 at 08:16 AM.
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April 5th, 2008
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Originally Posted by capekate Thanks so much for all your help folks! Shawnie: Your lil JD is a cutie pie and sure does look like the other two photos I posted. If it wasnt for the lack of black vertical lines like mine, I would really have to re think if it were a JD! YIKES.. tho they are gorgeous fish, just not what I planned on having in my tank! lol.. guess only time will tell?
~ kate | oh that wasnt my baby kate...I  I dont have pics of mine when he was a baby..but he still looks like mine did lol | |
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April 5th, 2008
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| They look like the Apistogramma Boreli that I saw at the stores here, but they could look almost like them.
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Originally Posted by Butterfly Their definitely not Bolivians but still beauties.
carol
Turquoise Rainbows? You lucky woman. They want your first born child for those here.
Carol | Hi Carol,
I was very surprised to see them there. wish I could send you a few... didnt cost much, they charged me 8.99 a piece. Which is a lot for me tho.. lol.
They are getting in double red apisto's next week along with the GBRs.. but charge 15.00 each for the double reds.
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April 5th, 2008
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Originally Posted by capekate lol... btw, lol, my husband said.. who cares what kind they are? They are cool looking.... He just doesnt understand... WE want to know what kind of fish we have in our tanks, and it will drive me crazy til I figure it out lol... | This way you can also figure out how many other fish you can fit in your tank. 
Tom | |
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April 5th, 2008
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| new photos
I was able to get a few photos of the female. Everytime I tried to get her, the male would get in the way trying to turn her back to the plants. She is shy right now and when she see's me, she hides again.
But here are a few to get an idea of what she looks like.. nothing like the male I may add.. The photos of her are a little dark.. I will try again tomorrow.
And try to get photos of the blue rainbows.. | |
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April 6th, 2008
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| It is probably a jack dempsey, but I think it is some type of mix breed. | |
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April 6th, 2008
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| hi FishKing I would suspect the same thing, only thing that is confusing the heck out of me is that it has the typical body shape of a d.Cichlid with those bottom (rays) fins that are typical of them. Its so small.. just short of 2 inches right now, its hard to tell. I guess Im going to have to do a wait and see on this one...
Tom, the store owner also mentioned something about the shipper sending them borelli, and said.. these are not borelli. So your right, they may be a hybrid of some time, a mixed batch of an assortment of d.cichlids that may have all been in the same tank and ended up breeding morphs.. who knows? | |
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April 6th, 2008
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Originally Posted by Butterfly Their definitely not Bolivians but still beauties.
carol
Turquoise Rainbows? You lucky woman. They want your first born child for those here.
Carol | Hi Carol,
well.. my turquoise rainbows didnt make it. I woke this am to find both of them dead. I just cannot believe it! ugghh... Im having bad luck with bows lately. After I brought them home I found that these in particular liked the more alkaline water, where my pH is 6.4 and soft water. I dont know if that was the cause of their deaths so sudden or my Angelfish is bothering these guys.I acclimated them slowly for an hour before putting them into the tank. But I noticed that they started to loose their color once they were in the tank. I just cannot believe they are gone.
Now Im going to have to call the LFS where I bought them to find out what their policy is on returns or if they will at least give me store credit for the double red and GBRs that I want to get next week. I wanted to take photos this am for you, but all I have left now are the photos I took while they were in the bag. Its hard to see all the great blue coloring on them, but you will get an idea of what they looked like. poor lil guys...  | |
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April 6th, 2008
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|  sorry for your loss kate...its totally frustrating when we arent sure how or why...I hope the pet store helps you out! | |
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April 6th, 2008
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Originally Posted by capekate I was able to get a few photos of the female. Everytime I tried to get her, the male would get in the way trying to turn her back to the plants. She is shy right now and when she see's me, she hides again.
But here are a few to get an idea of what she looks like.. nothing like the male I may add.. The photos of her are a little dark.. I will try again tomorrow.
And try to get photos of the blue rainbows.. | I think it's a Blue Acara! | |
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Originally Posted by Shawnie sorry for your loss kate...its totally frustrating when we arent sure how or why...I hope the pet store helps you out! | Thanks Shawnie...
well I sure hope they honor some kind of refund.. thats a lot of money to be out of in 24hrs.. ugggh. Especially since I do want to get those GBRs and a double red, which the double reds go for 15.00 each. I just dont have those kinds of funds ..
BTW at the apistogramma forum, I was told that it looks like a baby JD.
I just hope not. Im confused by the mottled wavy black lines in its body, the JD doesnt have that. Do your JDs have a black spot at their caudal fin?
The female in the photos above I know is not a JD... shes pretty colorful tho, still have no idea what she may be. gawd.. never had this much problems with not being able to ID fish, thats what happens when you mix breed them in a tank I guess... | |
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| im gonna bet my last  on that last photo being a JD...it looks totally like mine did...the black lines fade as the blues n greens come out...I had posted another thread on "jack n reggie" so you can clearly see him now as an adult...gosh I wish I had taken pics of him as a juvi...totally the same....goodluck anyway on finding out..and also goodluck with the LFS | |
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April 6th, 2008
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| Maybe Dino will be in later, he would know for sure.
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April 6th, 2008
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| Well, looking at photos online.. it seems that the female is a FireMouth Cichlid. It has the telltale black spot under its eye area, and the deep red under the mouth and along the belly. The photos I saw of juvies, also look like the smaller one that is still plain in color.
Hi Neville, I have to say that the blue acara in this photo below looks just like the fish I have. I think that you may be right.. it does look like a blue acara.
OOOO boy... now I really have to watch these fish! http://badmanstropicalfish.com/your-...blueacara1.jpg | |
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April 6th, 2008
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| I checked the photos out... thanks Shawnie. I just dont know.. Im still confuuuused! lol... 
But the female does look like a Firemouth... I am trying to get a video of this guy but heck... they are still hiding out behind the driftwood and its almost impossible to get them to come out and play! But I will keep trying... | |
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