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April 5th, 2008
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I was able to get a few photos of the female. Everytime I tried to get her, the male would get in the way trying to turn her back to the plants. She is shy right now and when she see's me, she hides again.
But here are a few to get an idea of what she looks like.. nothing like the male I may add..  The photos of her are a little dark.. I will try again tomorrow.
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April 6th, 2008
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It is probably a jack dempsey, but I think it is some type of mix breed.  |
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April 6th, 2008
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hi FishKing I would suspect the same thing, only thing that is confusing the heck out of me is that it has the typical body shape of a d.Cichlid with those bottom (rays) fins that are typical of them. Its so small.. just short of 2 inches right now, its hard to tell. I guess Im going to have to do a wait and see on this one...
Tom, the store owner also mentioned something about the shipper sending them borelli, and said.. these are not borelli. So your right, they may be a hybrid of some time, a mixed batch of an assortment of d.cichlids that may have all been in the same tank and ended up breeding morphs.. who knows?
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April 6th, 2008
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Originally Posted by Butterfly
Their definitely not Bolivians  but still beauties.
carol
Turquoise Rainbows? You lucky woman. They want your first born child for those here.
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Hi Carol,
well.. my turquoise rainbows didnt make it. I woke this am to find both of them dead. I just cannot believe it! ugghh... Im having bad luck with bows lately. After I brought them home I found that these in particular liked the more alkaline water, where my PH is 6.4 and soft water. I dont know if that was the cause of their deaths so sudden or my Angelfish is bothering these guys.I acclimated them slowly for an hour before putting them into the tank. But I noticed that they started to loose their color once they were in the tank. I just cannot believe they are gone.
Now Im going to have to call the LFS where I bought them to find out what their policy is on returns or if they will at least give me store credit for the double red and GBRs that I want to get next week. I wanted to take photos this am for you, but all I have left now are the photos I took while they were in the bag. Its hard to see all the great blue coloring on them, but you will get an idea of what they looked like. poor lil guys...  |
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April 6th, 2008
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 sorry for your loss kate...its totally frustrating when we arent sure how or why...I hope the pet store helps you out! |
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April 6th, 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by capekate
I was able to get a few photos of the female. Everytime I tried to get her, the male would get in the way trying to turn her back to the plants. She is shy right now and when she see's me, she hides again.
But here are a few to get an idea of what she looks like.. nothing like the male I may add.. The photos of her are a little dark.. I will try again tomorrow.
And try to get photos of the blue rainbows.. |
I think it's a Blue Acara! |
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April 6th, 2008
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Originally Posted by Shawnie
sorry for your loss kate...its totally frustrating when we arent sure how or why...I hope the pet store helps you out! |
Thanks Shawnie...
well I sure hope they honor some kind of refund.. thats a lot of money to be out of in 24hrs.. ugggh. Especially since I do want to get those GBRs and a double red, which the double reds go for 15.00 each. I just dont have those kinds of funds ..
BTW at the apistogramma forum, I was told that it looks like a baby JD.
I just hope not. Im confused by the mottled wavy black lines in its body, the JD doesnt have that. Do your JDs have a black spot at their caudal fin?
The female in the photos above I know is not a JD... shes pretty colorful tho, still have no idea what she may be. gawd.. never had this much problems with not being able to ID fish, thats what happens when you mix breed them in a tank I guess... |
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April 6th, 2008
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im gonna bet my last  on that last photo being a JD...it looks totally like mine did...the black lines fade as the blues n greens come out...I had posted another thread on "jack n reggie" so you can clearly see him now as an adult...gosh I wish I had taken pics of him as a juvi...totally the same....goodluck anyway on finding out..and also goodluck with the LFS |
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April 6th, 2008
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Maybe Dino will be in later, he would know for sure.
carol
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April 6th, 2008
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Well, looking at photos online.. it seems that the female is a FireMouth Cichlid. It has the telltale black spot under its eye area, and the deep red under the mouth and along the belly. The photos I saw of juvies, also look like the smaller one that is still plain in color.
Hi Neville, I have to say that the blue acara in this photo below looks just like the fish I have. I think that you may be right.. it does look like a blue acara.
OOOO boy... now I really have to watch these fish! 
http://badmanstropicalfish.com/your-...blueacara1.jpg |
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April 6th, 2008
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I checked the photos out... thanks Shawnie. I just dont know.. Im still confuuuused! lol...
But the female does look like a Firemouth... I am trying to get a video of this guy but heck... they are still hiding out behind the driftwood and its almost impossible to get them to come out and play! But I will keep trying... |
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April 6th, 2008
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Originally Posted by Neville
I think it's a Blue Acara!
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Thank you, that what I said and I'm sticking to it. But only 2 of the pixs look like them.  |
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April 6th, 2008
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Originally Posted by Allie
Thank you, that what I said and I'm sticking to it. But only 2 of the pixs look like them. |
Man every pix you take looks different. 
Now I see the second set of pixs...it looks like 2 Firemouths and a Blue Acara.
Our Firemouths were two inches & nasty, we had 3 the males killed one of the other.
Something is wrong with the people at that fish store.
2 are in the firemouth family.
http://www.cichlid-forum.com/profile....php?genus=203
Last edited by Allie; April 6th, 2008 at 10:14 AM.
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April 6th, 2008
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Originally Posted by Allie
Thank you, that what I said and I'm sticking to it. But only 2 of the pixs look like them. |
Hi Allie,
hope all the photos were not confusing. I have three cichlids in the tank that are new. One being the photos of the one we are trying to figure out if it is a JD or B.Acara. the other is a photo of a much smaller juvie, that does not have much coloring at all, and looks like the photo that Carol posted as a Apisto- Commbrae. The last photos above are two of the one I believe is a female or male firemouth with the red patches under its chin, along its belly and the spot right under the cheek, as I have seen in many photos of the firemouth cichlid online. Along with those two photos above, I added another of the fish in question (jd or acara).
I respect your knowledge of cichlids.. and know that you have had, and seen many of them. It is looking more and more like a b.Acara while I have been searching out online images of them. |
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April 6th, 2008
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Originally Posted by capekate
Hi Allie,
hope all the photos were not confusing. I have three cichlids in the tank that are new. One being the photos of the one we are trying to figure out if it is a JD or B.Acara. the other is a photo of a much smaller juvie, that does not have much coloring at all, and looks like the photo that Carol posted as a Apisto- Commbrae. The last photos above are two of the one I believe is a female or male firemouth with the red patches under its chin, along its belly and the spot right under the cheek, as I have seen in many photos of the firemouth cichlid online. Along with those two photos above, I added another of the fish in question (jd or acara).
I respect your knowledge of cichlids.. and know that you have had, and seen many of them. It is looking more and more like a b.Acara while I have been searching out online images of them. |
Thanks, I love trying to figure out species. Searching and reading about them when you aren't sure what they are help you to remember what they truly are in the long run. Plus I have decided I like the look of soo many over the last few years, learning the hard way that they are too aggressive for me.
I won't ever have an Oscar, Firemouths, or Green Terrors in my house again.  |
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April 6th, 2008
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I so agree..green terrors live up to their name..they would take on anything!! although the norm is being mean for the oscars, mine have been hand fed since I got them five years ago..they are more like a great dane now...totally lazy and laid back, until dinner time hahaha..
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April 6th, 2008
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Originally Posted by Shawnie
I so agree..green terrors live up to their name..they would take on anything!! although the norm is being mean for the oscars, mine have been hand fed since I got them five years ago..they are more like a great dane now...totally lazy and laid back, until dinner time hahaha..
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We had 2 2" baby oscars, A tiger and an orange last year or the year before. One was super aggressive, the tiger. He/she ate the belly out of $60 4-5" baby arrowna.  |
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