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Old July 9th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
How do you stop fish from getting stuck in the filter?

Hi.... I just had my third fish die from getting stuck in the filter..... how do I stop this.
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Old July 9th, 2009  
Moderator
 
I'm so sorry Matt
Try the panty hose over the intake suggestion.
How long have you had the guppies? Normally healthy fish can avoid getting stuck.
When's the last time you checked the water?
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Old July 9th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
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I'm so sorry Matt
Try the panty hose over the intake suggestion.
How long have you had the guppies? Normally healthy fish can avoid getting stuck.
When's the last time you checked the water?
checked water yesterday..... ammonia 0ppm nitrite 0ppm nitrate 5ppm pH 8.0ppm. All guppies very active none are sick. will try your ideas
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Old July 9th, 2009  
Fish Helper
 
hey again matt i had this exact problem and me and my dad got a peice of PVC pipe and drilled holes in the side of the pvc pipe and put a cap at the bottom of the pvc pipe then put it over the filter and it made the current not as strong so that dirt and junk would get sucked into the filtter but fish would not. ask your parents if you can try it its easy and helpful. goodluck : )
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Old July 9th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
What I do is buy an AquaClear 20 sponge, cut it in half, then use scissors to make a slit in it and slide it over the filter intake. Works quite well, prevents junk from getting sucked up too (leaves, food and such). I just remove it and rinse it out when I clean the tank.
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Old July 9th, 2009  
Fish Master
 
I do the same as Marsha. Good luck! I hope you find a solution to the problem.
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Old July 10th, 2009  
Moderator
 
Same here. I just used and old round sponge that I happened to have from another system and slid it over the intake tube. Works like a charm.
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Old July 10th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
thank you for your advice people
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Old July 10th, 2009  
Fish Master
 
aww matt another one im so sorry!!! great advice on the sponges but as lucy said, fish that arent sick shouldnt get stuck unless your filter is way to large for the size tank....do you know what kind exactly your filter is?
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Old July 10th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
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aww matt another one im so sorry!!! great advice on the sponges but as lucy said, fish that arent sick shouldnt get stuck unless your filter is way to large for the size tank....do you know what kind exactly your filter is?
I bought it from a package in Petsmart the filter is Aquenon
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Old July 10th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
I have an Aqueon filter too. If it is of a size rated for your tank, healthy fish shouldn't be getting stuck. Are you witnessing them getting stuck while still alive? Or are you finding them dead, stuck to the filter? If it's the latter... there is something else probably going on here, then after they die they are getting drawn into the current.
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Old July 10th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
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I have an Aqueon filter too. If it is of a size rated for your tank, healthy fish shouldn't be getting stuck. Are you witnessing them getting stuck while still alive? Or are you finding them dead, stuck to the filter? If it's the latter... there is something else probably going on here, then after they die they are getting drawn into the current.
no.... when I turn the filter off the guppy swims out then I put him in the breeder trap and he dies
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Old July 11th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
Ok so I put pantihoes on the filter intakes but will this stop the filter from sucking up particels of food?
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Old July 11th, 2009  
Moderator
 
It should still filter the water fine. Weekly gravel vacs will get rid of any left over food but if there's that much,perhaps you're feeding to much
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Old July 11th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
Matt, one other thing that hasn't been mentioned (similar to cherrybarbboi). I drilled extra hole in the intake tube. This will decrease the pressure per hole but keeps the flow rate the same. I originally did this on the outflow tube because my filter created too much water movement in my Discus tank. Then I took the idea one step further and did it on the intake tube of my guppy tank. Now the fry don't get suck into the filter.
This can also solve the problem if your filter is overrated for the tank as haedra suggested.
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Old July 11th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
Easiest way is to find LFS which sell s/w supplies. Should be able to find coarse foam (either in cylidrical or rectangular shape, used as replaceable filter materials for Wed/Dry filter System). Aqua Clear foam and nylon netting/stocking works but requires constant cleaning compared to Coarse Foam. Such fine materials are bound trap more finer particles which will clogged up fater, especially with nylon nets in well planted tank.
Coarse Foam will let most particles to pass which will be filtered out by cartridges, thus less cleaning required.
If your intake tube is big/thick enough, may be able to use prefilter foam of any Mag-Drive Pump by Supreme. replaceable foam should be avail for few bucks which will last.
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Old July 11th, 2009  
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Coarse Foam will let most particles to pass which will be filtered out by cartridges, thus less cleaning required.
Makes sense, and it's easier to rinse a cartidge than reaching in the tank removing the nylon to rinse.
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Old July 11th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
Excellent ideas. I prefer the aquaclear sponge to the panty hose. I have used netting from the fabric department, which is essentially the same as using pantyhose, but still had tiny angel fry get stuck. Here is a pick of a cut up aquaclear filter sponge on a penguin filter in a 10 gallon with molly fry. The panty hose does make it so fish can’t fit through buy the sponge seems to spread the suction out over a larger area or something. You just push scissors into the end of the sponge and then force the scissors open to make a hole. Not a single one has gotten stuck. That’s a great idea about drilling holes in the intake tube. I never thought of that.
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Old July 11th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
Sue, is that a DIY CO2 in the back of the tank? That's what I've been doing (besides water changes) today!
Could you stay off this post and PM me, I have a few questions for you.
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Old July 11th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
pnatihoes not working..... junk does not go up filter.... where do I get that sponge that you all liked?
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Old July 11th, 2009  
Moderator
 
Any fish store would sell them. I like cerianthus's suggestion.
But really, there shouldn't be that much debris since you added the pany hose. Are you feeding to much?
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Old July 11th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
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Any fish store would sell them. I like cerianthus's suggestion.
But really, there shouldn't be that much debris since you added the pany hose. Are you feeding to much?
I think I under feed.... 2-4 pinches of fine crused food once a day.... the junk is mostly fish waste
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Old July 11th, 2009  
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Maybe you need to vacuum more often?
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Old July 11th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
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Maybe you need to vacuum more often?
I dont think so.... if the fish waste does not reach filter intake in goes to bottom and stays there intill I vacum....
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Old July 15th, 2009  
Fish Bum
 
Get smarter fish. J/K. for sure try foam over the intake. it will also cut down on particles clogging filter.
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