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January 30th, 2009
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| | Fish Keeper
| Filter - cycling? First of all, I'm wondering, which holds more of the good bacteria, filter media or gravel?
Second, since you can put cycled filter media in a new tank to instant-cycle it, can you put new filter media in an established tank for awhile to let the bacteria grow onto the new filter media? Would that work? If so, how long would it take? |
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January 30th, 2009
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| 1) The filter media contains more bacteria.
2) Yep, a lot of us keep extra sponges and filter media in our established tanks in case we want to quick cycle a tank.  |
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January 30th, 2009
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| | Fish Master
| the filter media holds more...and yes you can put new media in for about 2 weeks and it should be seeded...  snappy fingers lucy LOL |
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February 8th, 2009
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| | Fish Addict
| When you decided to change your filter media when your tank is "established" do so during weekly water changes, use the "dirty good water" your taking out andrinse or soak the new filter in that water.Or your can use dechlorinated water. Elders please correct me if im wrong. |
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February 8th, 2009
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| | Fish Master
| Quote:
Originally Posted by CoryMac When you decided to change your filter media when your tank is "established" do so during weekly water changes, use the "dirty good water" your taking out andrinse or soak the new filter in that water.Or your can use dechlorinated water. Elders please correct me if im wrong. | elders? LOL  you must mean LUCY 
no need for "dirty good water" as there isnt enough bacteria free floating to seed it and keep it seeded..just put the new filter media somewhere in your tank or hide it in a corner or even in your filter area for 2 weeks and it should be seeded enough to change out the old  |
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February 22nd, 2009
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| Quote:
Originally Posted by Shawnie elders? LOL  you must mean LUCY 
no need for "dirty good water" as there isnt enough bacteria free floating to seed it and keep it seeded..just put the new filter media somewhere in your tank or hide it in a corner or even in your filter area for 2 weeks and it should be seeded enough to change out the old  | what if you have have a bio wheel does it matter when , doesn't the bio wheel hold enough bacteria. |
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February 22nd, 2009
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| | Fish Master
| Quote:
Originally Posted by CoryMac what if you have have a bio wheel does it matter when , doesn't the bio wheel hold enough bacteria. | no, from personal experience the biowheel alone doesn't have enough bacteria to keep a cycle going if you were to, for example, remove all of the other media and put it in a brand new tank that didn't have "seeded" gravel/substrate |
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February 22nd, 2009
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Originally Posted by agabr123 no, from personal experience the biowheel alone doesn't have enough bacteria to keep a cycle going if you were to, for example, remove all of the other media and put it in a brand new tank that didn't have "seeded" gravel/substrate | i have 4 filters in my bio wheel can i change 2 & than change the other 2 in 2 weeks |
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February 22nd, 2009
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| | Fish Master
| i'd give it a little more than two weeks, maybe closer to a month but otherwise that should be fine  |
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February 22nd, 2009
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| | Fish Bum
| for discussion sakes i had a ten gallon that i wanted to set up for a quarantine tank so i keep a filter for it in my other tank. I also took about five gallons from fifty five and did the other five gallons of water from the tap. that should then be safe for fish correct? |
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February 22nd, 2009
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| adding the water from the 55 isn't doing anything but giving you nitrAtes really, it's fine to just put in treated tap water with the seeded filter  you can also put some of your substrate into a nylon stocking and put it in your QT which should help a lot |
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February 22nd, 2009
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| i have quick filter on my powerhead that should hold lots of beneficial bacteria I change that once a month.I'm thinking that filter will help with the lack of bacteria when i change my bio wheel filter. I let my quick filters soak im my bio wheel for about 3 weeks or so.thanks for the info "agabr". |
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February 22nd, 2009
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| no problem  |
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February 22nd, 2009
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| | Fish Bum
| ok well thank you i never thought about that. i love that there is so much different knowledge in this site. i do take a substantial amount of substrate into the quarantine when i set it up. I have had bad luck with fish lately and have been quarantining all new fish for over a week. |
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February 22nd, 2009
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| | Fish Master
| you're welcome  yeah quarantining new fish is definitely a great idea, i'd recommend QT for even longer, closer to two weeks actually |
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February 22nd, 2009
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| | Fish Addict
| Quote:
Originally Posted by kojen for discussion sakes i had a ten gallon that i wanted to set up for a quarantine tank so i keep a filter for it in my other tank. I also took about five gallons from fifty five and did the other five gallons of water from the tap. that should then be safe for fish correct? | Hey you think like i do, is that good or bad    |
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February 22nd, 2009
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| | Fish Bum
| ok i am pretty much stocked for now unless i can find a place that sells medium sized texas cichlids. The last time i q'd for about ten days. But then moved them over because they were not doing well in such a small tank. (firemouth and convict) I will keep that in mind that i do not need to use the water since i am moving the filter and substrate. thanks
as for the thinking like you do i consider it a good thing. I like to think of myself as a practical thinker that can usually come up with a fairly good plan |
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February 22nd, 2009
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| | Fish Addict
| sweet  same here. |
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