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Old May 14th, 2009  
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how much driftwood should i have in a 36g???

hi everyone !! my pH is too low.. after i added some more driftwood...i dont know why?? the tank had already some driftwood ,, i added more pieces from another tank i had and now my ph is going low. tank ref in my profile. thank you for your time! so is it bad to have too much driftwood in the tank?? the old pieces i added have been for long time in my crayfish tank..

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Old May 14th, 2009  
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The tannic acid found in drift wood can lower your ph.
The newer the wood, the more tannins will leach out.
Here's a couple of links that explain it better than I can:
Driftwood Do's & Don'ts
Driftwood Basics
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Old May 15th, 2009  
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how much driftwood should i have in a 36g? help please!

hi everyone !! my pH is too low.. after i added some more driftwood...i dont know why?? the tank had already some driftwood ,, i added more pieces from another tank i had and now my ph is going low. tank ref in my profile. thank you for your time! so is it bad to have too much driftwood in the tank?? the old pieces i added have been for long time in my crayfish tank..
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Old May 15th, 2009  
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http://www.petfish.net/kb/entry/194/ <- I just read this on another thread. I would probably remove some of the drift wood. Do a water change to get your pH levels back up. If it drops too low it could lead to crashing. (too, depending on what type of fish you have) Yes, driftwood can and will lower your pH levels.

oops...check this link instead: http://www.ratemyfishtank.com/articles/107

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Old May 15th, 2009  
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http://www.petfish.net/kb/entry/194/ <- I just read this on another thread. I would probably remove some of the drift wood. Do a water change to get your pH levels back up. If it drops too low it could lead to crashing. (too, depending on what type of fish you have) Yes, driftwood can and will lower your pH levels.

oops...check this link instead: http://www.ratemyfishtank.com/articles/107
THE LINK DID IT!! JEJEJ
waow thank you. i know i had another thead because i didnt have the write question. i know about the drifwood bringing levels down but what i want to know if is too much driftwood bad?? i mean.. i wanted to make my fish tank sorf of in like a huge drifwood world.. a lot of drifwood it looks amaizing... so is it too much driftwood bad??

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Old May 15th, 2009  
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Do you know the pH of your tap water? I live in the land of high pH so I use driftwood to lower mine. I was under the impression, however, that once it had been in the tank a long time all the tanins would have already have been released and it would no longer lower pH. You said the one you put in had already been in another tank for a while...so I wouldn't think that it would have been a big deal.

Have you done anything else different? I've heard that certain products can lower pH as well. Have you added anything new?
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Old May 15th, 2009  
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Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe using carbon in your filtration system should remove the tannins released by the wood and so negate the pH-lowering effect. You'd just have to remember to change it out regularly.
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Old May 15th, 2009  
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Do you know the pH of your tap water? I live in the land of high pH so I use driftwood to lower mine. I was under the impression, however, that once it had been in the tank a long time all the tanins would have already have been released and it would no longer lower pH. You said the one you put in had already been in another tank for a while...so I wouldn't think that it would have been a big deal.

Have you done anything else different? I've heard that certain products can lower pH as well. Have you added anything new?
nothing new,, i added 2 rummy nose.. and i want to add more rummys to make a school of 10 but i have to add them little by little.. you know the deal!! lol.
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Old May 15th, 2009  
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Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe using carbon in your filtration system should remove the tannins released by the wood and so negate the pH-lowering effect. You'd just have to remember to change it out regularly.
i dont use carbon.. waow im gonna have to use it now .. thank you for your help.
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Old May 15th, 2009  
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you could just put something in the tank to raise the PH, like some rocks
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Old May 15th, 2009  
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you could just put something in the tank to raise the PH, like some rocks
yes i got some type of rock that the guy at the LFS told me it was good but it will take time to harder the water.. im not too worry about it, i just want to make clear is it really bad to have too much driftwood
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Old May 15th, 2009  
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ok i can see a pattern forming there is an unanswered question
iseefish wants to know if it is bad to have to much driftwood,, someone please answer lol
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Old May 15th, 2009  
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If you have enough drift wood in your tank to cause your pH to go as low as yours then I say yes...too much is not a good thing. As far as carbon is concerned it will remove the tannins from the water. However, I don't know for sure that adding carbon will keep the pH from dropping more with the drift wood still in the water.

I believe I read that crushed sea shells will help the pH levels to rise. I haven't had to do this myself so wait for more responses on adding crushed sea shells . Boil them first. Too, they may not have to be crushed.
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Old May 15th, 2009  
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I would do more water changes...your tap water ph should bring it up in your tanks. Is the water staying clear?...tannins will make the water "tea" colored. It is possible you have different types of wood and one isn't cured yet. If driftwood is changing your ph it is normally a slow process...as the tannins leach out....not like adding chemicals. And yes you could reach a level of too much driftwood. In rivers the wood is constantly being flushed (water changes)....in a bog..well bogs, are usually acid and low ph.
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Old May 16th, 2009  
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thank you guys.. the driftwood i have has been in water for 6 months no more tea color ,, the driftwood is good my was just concern was and having too much. crush coral will do the contra and i have to establish that,. my job as an owner it is to give the right tools tothe tank so cycle continues without a brake down. i guess lol..
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Old May 17th, 2009  
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to Johnpleco: there really is no definative answer...as to how much driftwood per gallon..we try to give advice based on our experiences....it is up to the questioner to see if any of the advice fits his or her conditions.

I had a similar experience with a soft/acid water setup for SA Dwarf Chilids...and out of everyones experiences I found a solution too my problems...and it was fairly simple. That is the beauty of this forum.

AND ...Welcome to FISHLORE..we are one big family helping each other, in sickness, and health, until whatever.
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