Bryan Wilie

my 2,5' discus is now swimming near under the water surface with the head facing down like this (/). he/she also like to move (shake/vibrate like movement) his/her fins and tie (two things look like hand at the downright of body) what disease is it? I've read discus disease but i confused and can't decide what medication i should take. I haven't quarantined it yet. Anyone help me please? thx a lot guys. Sorry for my bad language buddy.

ABCDemily

If you could post a photo, then we can have a go at identifying these symptoms easier. Personally, if the head is pointing down, it'd lead me to think about a Swimbladder issue.

Someone who's more knowledgable about this breed should be a long shortly.

aquarist48

Good morning. Hate to hear your fish isn't feeling up to par. Can you post your readings for ammonia, nitrite and nitrate? It will really help others to help you more.
Thanks,
Ken

Slug

Sounds like a swimbladder issue, but it could be something else playing a factor too. Its really tough to bring back a fish from a swimbladder issue. I'd go ahead an QT it if you have the space.

Is the fish bloated at all? Is it otherwise healthy? What does it look like, sick dark and concerning?

I'd look to get some Maracyn-Two and Maracyn and dose that as recommended on the box/bottle. Waterchanges can also help, do large frequent water changes. Keep the tank water clean.

cerianthus

What kind? How long did you have the discus/
If recent purchase, How long did store had this fish?
Do you know if this was shipped recently from farms? Always ask the questions such as how long, food given, etc. as it wont hurt but assist.

pH, Ammonia (NH3), Nitrite (NO2) levels?

What are its tankmates and size of tank?
If recent purchase, is your tank lot deeper than tank that fish were bought from?

Bryan Wilie

(for abc) pH is 7-7.5, nitrate on 10mg/l, nitrite on 0-0,5mg/l,
(for aquarist 48) hey buddy, i remeber that long ago you've advising me, thx bro!
(for cerianthus) i have this one from the first time i bought discus, but i,ve never seen this disease before. Mine is 55gallons with some siamese & chinese algae eater, shrimps, corydoras, botia, cardinals and neon for food (is it strange?). not recent actually but it's only 1,5 times deeper. I see u're so experienced buddy. i'm newbie though. thanks for helping!
(for slug) yes, otherwise is healthy, what disease does Maracyn cure for? I didn't find any of Maracyn in my fav. pet store.

and for photos, i'll post it, wait a sec

mathas

Maracyn and Maracyn-Two are antibiotics, Maracyn for gram-positive bacteria and Maracyn-Two for gram-negative.

If you can't find those particular brands in your store, Maracyn's active ingredient is erythromycin, and Maracyn-Two's active ingredient is minocycline. If you decide to medicate, check for medications available locally that have those chemicals as active ingredients to replicate the effects of Maracyn and/or Maracyn-Two.

Bryan Wilie

the (i think it's snakeskin) discus is swimming with the head pointing down. Is it really swimbladder disease?

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Bryan Wilie

(for mahtas) what dosage should I pour the erytromicyn tablet with the water for 12 gallons (57 ml)? And what disease can be cured with maracyn actually? Thx for the info buddy.. I often use the erytromycin for stomachache so I have it a lot in my house.. hehe..

mathas

Mardel's recommended dosage of Maracyn is one packet (I believe 200mg) per 10 gallons of water, once daily for 5 days.

Erythromycin, as I said earlier, is used to treat gram-positive bacterial infections... there are a variety of such infections, including some causes of popeye, some types of fin and tail rot, cotton mouth disease, and possibly neon tetra disease. Whether it will help your particular problem or not, I don't know.

Slug

Looks a little bloated to me (And yes also a Snakeskin). Bloated could indicated something wrong inside. Either with swimbladder, food not passing, normal bloat, or internal parasites. Hard to say.

I suggested Maracyn 2 because its what i've seen people use and be suggested before when treating swim bladders and a wide range of stuff when you can't pin it down. I'm sure you could always try some salt and water changes.

Lucy

Keep in mind, I know nothing about Discus other than they're beautiful fish.
When bettas get bloaty from constipation we feed them bits on thawed shelled frozen pea to help get things moving.
I don't know if that'll help your babies.
Perhaps the members who know more about Discus can comment on this?

Good luck, I hope he/she recovers.

Bryan Wilie

I've just quarantined mine recently and I pour 250 mg of Erythromycin for the qt but i found my discus nearly dead just a minute later. So I do a water change again and gave the stress reliever medicine. Is the erythromcyin not too good for small fish? What if I give some internal parasite or finrot medicine to him/her? I'm afraid of him/her death actually. Thanks for the advice guys.

ATKINSON

Really sorry about your discus, hope they make a speedy recovery!

ifixoldhouses

Heres a article I got from SimplyDiscus.com about headstanders.
http://www.discusnews.com/article/ca...imblader.shtml