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October 25th, 2008
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| | Fish Helper
| Would Discus fishes be safe with Angels?
Hello,
Yea you people might think that I am out of my mind putting Discus with Angels, but I have seen some people have success with angels?
Because I was thinking of getting some with my angels.
My angels are about medium sized, what you might be able to see at Petcetera, if they sell them still.
Mine are still sick, but as soon as I get them back to normal, I might be thinking of getting some Discus.
So if anyone has any good ideas, that would be great 
Thanks. | 
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October 25th, 2008
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| I think that discus need different water quality than angels, but I'm not positive about that.
I know that discus are really messy fish, and need a pretty big space. | |
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October 25th, 2008
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| I remember one time in TFH mag there was a dude with a 300 gallon tank with discuses angelfish and rummynose tetras, but I dont know if it workes for everyone. | |
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October 25th, 2008
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| They need warmer and cleaner water than angels. But i suppose it could be done. I'm not a discus expert though. | |
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October 25th, 2008
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| Quote:
Originally Posted by angelfish220  I remember one time in TFH mag there was a dude with a 300 gallon tank with discuses angelfish and rummynose tetras, but I dont know if it workes for everyone. | Well I guess I might be able to add some medium sized discus fishes into my 350 gallon tank since there is enough space, and my angels shouldn't attack it, and I am hoping the discus could fend for itself if I got some.
By the way, is it hard to raise them?? because people say it is hard, and you have to do water changes all the time. | |
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October 25th, 2008
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| Don't please go buy fish just because I said that it worked for one guy in a magazine. Research everything about it first! | |
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October 25th, 2008
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Originally Posted by Gilbert They need warmer and cleaner water than angels. But i suppose it could be done. I'm not a discus expert though. | Oh I see. How come they can stay in rivers when the water current usually doesn't go so fast, and that the waste is usually at the bottom of the river anyway O_O | |
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October 25th, 2008
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| It can work, its not always recommended. Most of your problems will come with feedings, as angels will feed much more aggressively then discus. Water should be fine for both, i think the problems are mostly in feedings. | |
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October 25th, 2008
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Originally Posted by DarkRevoultions Oh I see. How come they can stay in rivers when the water current usually doesn't go so fast, and that the waste is usually at the bottom of the river anyway O_O | Even the slowest river replaces the water around a fish by the second, and there's far more water to dilute the waste. There's more space for nitrifying and denitrifying bacteria, not to mention countless multiple-celled organisms that clean the river's substrate. We can only try to mimic nature's aquariums. We just don't have the space or energy to truly accomplish what she does. | |
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October 25th, 2008
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Originally Posted by angelfish220 Don't please go buy fish just because I said that it worked for one guy in a magazine. Research everything about it first! | I've done some research but most people say that there is a moderate risk of it.
If I keep altum angels and discus together, it could be good since the altums need to have water changes very frequently anyway, but I don't know yet.
It's going to be a lot of money for me though. | |
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November 2nd, 2008
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| | Fish Newbie
| Discus and Angelfish
HI,
I really don't recommend putting discus and angelfish together and the reason has nothing to do with water temp. Angelfish have an aggressive nature that is not compatible with discus because discus get easily stressed out. And on a more serious note they can cause the "discus plague." Discus can carry certain parasites that can actually kill angelfish and vice versa. the weird thing is that this plague only effects these type of fish being put together. I'm not saying that all discus or angelfish for that matter have it but some do carry it. However if you really do want them together, again not recommending it, but if you are to put them together make sure that you separate the discus and quarantine them for a min. of 3 weeks at the temperature of 84 degrees with 50% water change daily. This will kill any parasites and whatever bad stuff they may spread to your main aquarium fish. I hope this info helps and good luck with your discus. | |
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November 2nd, 2008
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| | Fish Helper
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Originally Posted by Storm HI,
I really don't recommend putting discus and angelfish together and the reason has nothing to do with water temp. Angelfish have an aggressive nature that is not compatible with discus because discus get easily stressed out. And on a more serious note they can cause the "discus plague." Discus can carry certain parasites that can actually kill angelfish and vice versa. the weird thing is that this plague only effects these type of fish being put together. I'm not saying that all discus or angelfish for that matter have it but some do carry it. However if you really do want them together, again not recommending it, but if you are to put them together make sure that you separate the discus and quarantine them for a min. of 3 weeks at the temperature of 84 degrees with 50% water change daily. This will kill any parasites and whatever bad stuff they may spread to your main aquarium fish. I hope this info helps and good luck with your discus. | Thanks.
I put the same type of fish that needs to have practically the same things as what Discus require. I have the temp of 90ºF, and do water changes every day 2-3" from the top every time.
So the ones that are close to being with the Discus are my Altum Angels.
Turns out they can survive together as long as there is a fair amount of food for the angels and discus. I have about 10 discus and 20 Altum Angels. A lot of live plants which are extremely tall, about 4" from the top of the rim, and nitrite and nitrate level are very very low. ammonia ZERO pH at 6.8 and sometimes will go up to 7.0 MAX. | |
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November 2nd, 2008
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| I have a breeding pair of Angels in my Discus tank, with a small school of Rummynose Tetras, and all are doing well. Feeding is the biggest issue, as mentioned above. My Discus feed aggressively, and my Angels are on the more timid side. I would definately have a backup plan. | |
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November 2nd, 2008
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| The parasite thing is mostly a myth. Its possible for them to carry parasites yes, but there seems to be a common rumor or myth that these parasites only show up when angels are put with discus. Which is very untrue as they can spread them to any fish. The parasites are transfered through the poo in the aquarium, so if parasites are present a clean aquarium is a must. The parasites can only really be cured by medicine dosage paired with water changes. Discus plague and sickness is only a factor if you start with unhealthy fish. While it does come from stress, a healthy discus/angelfish will both rush the glass for food despite discus being a shy fish.  | |
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November 3rd, 2008
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| From reading all the opinions that seem to differ on this subject, I guess this is a case where it really comes down to the personality and aggression of the fish in question.
I have had Discus and Angel fish together for almost two years. I see no problem, except the occasional chasing of a Discus by the Angel fish and vice versa. But it never results in more than that.
During feeding however, the Discus are slower eaters and will shy away from the fast moving fish like Angel fish who attack their meal with gusto.As does my rainbow fish.
I see more aggression between the two Discus than towards other species.Also, when I had two angel fish in the tank, they would fight like crazy with each other and I had to remove one.
Discus and Angel fish are both SA cichlids and should do fine in the same water conditions. | |
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