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Old August 8th, 2008  
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Cory sleeping on its back?

My Cory has been staying on its back in the bottom of the tank recently. When we tap on the tank, he will get up and swim around for a moment or two and then settle. He is usually back on his back later when we check on him. I think that this behavior has been going on for about two weeks now. Does anyone have a solution to reasons for this behavior? One of my fish guys suggested putting some sea salt into the tank to help with an intestinal issue. He didn't go into much detail, but I did add 1/2 tsp of sea salt and don't see anything different.

Oh...he is in a 5 gallon tank in which I just added three neon tetras too on Thursday.

As always, your advice is worth gold to me!
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Old August 8th, 2008  
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Hmm... possibly a cycling issue, stress or swim bladder problem (swim bladder would explain laying on its side and not moving)
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Old August 8th, 2008  
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Hi Silver Welcome to Fish Lore

When you say your parameters are good..it would we helpful to know exactly what the reading are for ammonia, nitrites and nirtates.
Did you cycle your tank?
What temp is the tank?
What other fish are in there besides the cory and neons?
Is the cory showing any othet symptoms?

I don't think salt is a good idea, while it might be helpful in same cases, it can be very irritable to fish.
Just a guess, but it seems 1/2tsp of salt it a lot for 5g.

It probably wasn't a good idea to add the neons until you're sure the cory doesn't have something it could pass on to the other fish.

Sorry for all questions, the answers will help others help you.
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Old August 9th, 2008  
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I use a dip strip to test my nitrites, nitrates and pH and I have an ammonia detector inside the tank. Everything is reading good. The temp in the tank is about 75 degrees and varies up or down usually no more than a degree.

The cory was moved about a month ago from a 12 gallon tank with two male fancy guppies. His behavior right after the move was a little slowed, but it was after that when he started laying on his back. The tank has only had the cory in it since we set up the tank over a month ago. I only added the neons with "permission" from the fish store I normally get my fish from. I usually ask them before doing anything because of their blunt honesty with me.

The reason we originally moved the cory from the larger tank was because he was getting his fins nipped at by the guppies and they ended up nipping almost all of his fins right off. I am sure he was pretty stressed, but he was more active with the guppies than he has been in this tank. Since I am not sure what is wrong, I don't know symptoms. He doesn't have any spots on his body and he appears to be eating. I don't think he is eating as much as he did before, but he has to be eating something to still be alive after a month.

What are some possible reasons and how can I go about fixing whatever may be wrong with him?
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Old August 9th, 2008  
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Is he laying completely upside down? If so that sounds like a swimbladder problem... you mentioned he started doing it right after you moved him into the other tank so its possible during netting he ran into something or was squished a little? Either one of those along with stress from being moved could cause injury to his swimbladder making him flipover and not be able to stay upright

.... on a side note corys like to be in schools of at least 3, so he is probably already stressed being alone =(

Last edited by clinton1621; August 9th, 2008 at 03:20 AM.
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Old August 9th, 2008  
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Hi, welcome to FishLore! You've come to the right place! This sounds almost exactly like why I found this site to begin with!

The very first thing I'd do is do a water change and get the salt outta that aquarium as fast as possible. Cory cats are "scaleless" fish and don't do well with salt at all.

The dip strips can be rather inaccurate with their readings, is there any way you can pick up a liquid test or take some water somewhere to get a test done? The fish store maybe?

Since his tail was nipped (I had this problem with one of my cory cats a while ago, nipped by danios) has his tail regrown fully? Is it still down to the nub? This could also be a reason he's on his back.

I'd put him in a quarantine tank to treat him if it comes down to it. I have a cory in quarantine right now for Swim Bladder.

Swim Bladder is usually a secondary symptom of another thing that's happening to the fish. I'm guessing it's either water quality or a bacterial infection from the nipping.

Also, tropical fish need 78 degree water. A 25 or 50 watt heater work on getting the temp stable.

Was the new tank cycled before you put the cory in?

That was a lot, sorry! I tend to ramble... I hope your cory get's better!
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Old August 9th, 2008  
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I will do water change on the tank as soon as I can. As for putting him into a quarentine tank, I cannot do that. Right now I cannot afford to purchase another tank with the equipment suitable for a tropical fish. The cory was put into the tank 24 hours after it was set up, and no, his tail has not grown back yet.

The cory is totally on his back. And the reason I put the tetras in the tank was to give him the company that I know cories like. I figured being alone in a tank for a month was better than being in a tank with some mean, fin nipping guppies. He only started laying on his back after he was moved to the new tank. He wasn't doing it in the larger tank even without his tail or fins.

I trust the dip strips on my tank and when I was fighting my larger tank during cycling because of high ammonia, then nitrates, the strips worked wonders. Highly recommended by my fish store as were the ammonia testers in the tank. The thermometers that I have in both tanks are made for tropical fish, and both have a green area on them that shows the ideal temp. range. I try to make sure that the temp in both tanks are higher up in this green area, sometimes almost being 80 degrees.

In all honesty, I am still new to the whole aquarium thing. I have had my large tank since April I believe.

If he is having a swim bladder problem, what are some of the best solutions to this short of having to dig into the couch cushions to find enough change to purchase another small tank?
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Old August 9th, 2008  
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Everyone's got to start somewhere! Being new is ok!

The swim bladder is probably being caused by a bacterial infection due to not having a tail.

This is exactly why I came here the first time!

It's possible that the stress of the move from tank to tank and the new, uncycled water could just have been a turning point for the little guy.

I raced over to petco and picked up a 2.5 gallon tank and a very small filter for under 20 dollars. It didn't have a lid but it did the job.

If you can isolate him, I'd dose the tank with a med like Tri Sulfa or Maracyn. Something that has both antibiotics and helps with fin and tail rot would work. Also, Vita Chem, Fish Protector, and Garlic Guard are good to have around and may help him as well.

Unfortunately, I wouldn't dose the tank with the tetras in there. I'm not sure what to do with the tetras in there other than try to keep the water as clean as possible.

I had dip strips when I started... Sometimes they worked great and then sometimes they'd lie to me. I think it's because they're hard to read sometimes and are susceptible to too many environmental issues. This was also recommended to me by one of my fish stores... Watch those ammonia testers! Sometimes they wear out quickly! It just got to the point with me where I decided I needed consistency and the liquid testers work a ton better for that.

Yes, cories like company but the problem with this is that cories like their own company. They're schooling fish, just like the tetras. I have a group of them in one of my tanks and they run around like crazy with each other.

I know aquarium supplies can be expensive (I'm one of those broke college student type people!) so just buying things when you can will be ok. The heater in the tank is to keep the temp as stable as possible.

Regarding the 12 gallon tank, male guppies can be mean. I have 4 of them though and they seem to be fine. Maybe try 2 more guppies? Make sure they're male though otherwise there'll be babies all over the place! haha

It must be overwhelming. I know I was overwhelmed when I first got here... I hope your cory feels better soon! They're such cute little fish.

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