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January 10th, 2009
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| Clown's in a 50 gallon....
I just bought 1 clown loach today, I know they r a schooling fish, get big and r sensitive to water conditions, true? , want to possibly get 2 more, but havin 3 in a 50 gallon pushin it? I just read that they may get only 6 inches in captivity. True or not? Also have an 8 inch jack dempsey, angelfish and small pleco at the moment. Also want to get a few pictus catfish as I lost the one I had a few weeks ago.
Just today bought a aquaclear 110 500gph but left my other filter... aquaclear 70 running until it gets built up with all the good bacteria before removing the 70. So i've got good filtration. | 
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January 10th, 2009
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| I'd say you might be pushing it a bit. If I understand right you'd have a Jack Dempsey, an Angelfish, a Pleco and 3 Clown Loach in a 5ogal? | |
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January 10th, 2009
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Originally Posted by AlyeskaGirl  I know they r a schooling fish, get big and r sensitive to water conditions, true? | True, true, and true. Quote:
Originally Posted by AlyeskaGirl , want to possibly get 2 more, but havin 3 in a 50 gallon pushin it? I just read that they may get only 6 inches in captivity. True or not? | One clown loach is too much for a 50g in my opinion, so three would be more than just "pushing it". Their growth often slows down around 6", but shouldn't stop there if kept in adequate conditions.
To quote from the excellent article at loaches.com: Quote:
This is a wonderful loach, but too large for most hobbyist aquariums. Allowed a minimum of 75 gallons or more, young Clown Loaches thrive in groups.
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Clown Loaches are often sold at the very immature size of 1.5 inches (4cm) or so, but they should not be considered for the smaller (or even medium-sized) aquarium. They will grow quite rapidly from this cute size to around 5 inches (13cm), thereafter the growth slows somewhat, but with good care in a large tank, they can easily reach 8 to 12 inches (20 - 30 cm). They are big, bulky fish at that size.
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Adults will eventually require an aquarium measuring at least 6’ x 2’ x 2’. Even small specimens of this species must initially be housed in an aquarium that is 4ft long as a minimum. Anything smaller can cause these fast-swimming fish to become stunted and stressed.
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January 10th, 2009
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| Ah, Ok....thanx for your help.  I'll just keep him and then deal with it when the time comes! My fish store is low on stock for fish due to weather conditions.......gettin anxious for a few more fish is all, lol!!! They suppose to do a order on Monday.....got my fingers crossed!!!
Last edited by AlyeskaGirl; January 10th, 2009 at 08:37 PM.
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January 10th, 2009
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| I'd say get rid of the loach. It's not fair to him to keep him in less than adequate conditions. | |
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January 10th, 2009
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Originally Posted by MeGustaUnaPez926 I'd say get rid of the loach. It's not fair to him to keep him in less than adequate conditions. | You are right, I will take him back, I feel bad now!!! What other loaches would be suitable? | |
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January 10th, 2009
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| Mathas is exactly right with his information on Clown Loaches.
When kept in the right conditions Clown Loaches are wonderful, intelligent and huge creatures. I personally thing the 50g is too small for even the one clown Loach.
Sorry, I type too slow I didn't see that you had said you would take it back.
Here are some other Loaches for you to research for your tank. http://www.loaches.com/ read them and drool 
Carol
Last edited by Butterfly; January 10th, 2009 at 08:42 PM.
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January 10th, 2009
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Originally Posted by AlyeskaGirl What other loaches would be suitable? | If your aquarium info is correct and you're using aquarium salt, I wouldn't advise any loaches. Any salt in a loach tank?
That said, your pleco probably doesn't appreciate the salt either. Nor are your cichlids from brackish environments. Is there any particular reason you're using salt? | |
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January 10th, 2009
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Originally Posted by Butterfly Mathas is exactly right with his information on Clown Loaches.
When kept in the right conditions Clown Loaches are wonderful, intelligent and huge creatures. I personally thing the 50g is too small for even the one clown Loach.
Sorry, I type too slow I didn't see that you had said you would take it back.
Here are some other Loaches for you to research for your tank. http://www.loaches.com/ read them and drool
Carol | Wow!!! Thanks so much butterfly for the link!! You are right, im in drool status.....lol Hmmmm....hope my fishstore will have some of these on their order list on Monday, might have to call them and specify! | |
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January 10th, 2009
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Originally Posted by mathas If your aquarium info is correct and you're using aquarium salt, I wouldn't advise any loaches. Any salt in a loach tank?
That said, your pleco probably doesn't appreciate the salt either. Nor are your cichlids from brackish environments. Is there any particular reason you're using salt? | Just that my fish place said that its good stuff is all.......ist's for freshwater only.
Adds essetial electrolytes
improves gill function
promotes disease recovery
Last edited by AlyeskaGirl; January 10th, 2009 at 08:58 PM.
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January 10th, 2009
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| Be careful when you listen to what fish stores say.
They love their money.
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January 10th, 2009
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| I didn't realize you were using salt either. None of the fish need the salt and some of them (loach & Pleco) will be stressed by it. To remove it(If you choose to) you can do so by water changes and not adding any salt.
I would not recommend loaches until the salt is gone.
While your reading and researching pay close attention to the adult size and remember they need to be in groups of at least three. More is always better
YoYos and Kuhlis are pretty common but most stores can order others. Good Luck.
OK my job is done. I've infected another with Loachitis
Carol | |
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January 10th, 2009
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Originally Posted by Butterfly I didn't realize you were using salt either. None of the fish need the salt and some of them (loach & Pleco) will be stressed by it. To remove it(If you choose to) you can do so by water changes and not adding any salt.
I would not recommend loaches until the salt is gone.
While your reading and researching pay close attention to the adult size and remember they need to be in groups of at least three. More is always better
YoYos and Kuhlis are pretty common but most stores can order others. Good Luck.
OK my job is done. I've infected another with Loachitis
Carol | Alright I will do some water changes to get rid of the salt....... | |
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