Shawnie

After ccb04 suggested a month or so ago about Stress Coat+ doing nothing for nitrites, ive done a ton of research, calling Mars Fishcare (makers of stress coat+ ) and emailing them, and this is something I feel should be posted and listened to...Im not sure where the original information came from but this is something I am going to suggest and certainly everyone can make their decision...

Stress Coat + does NOTneutralize nitrites a single bit and it only neutralizes ammonia to the extent that it locks up a tiny bit of it that is produced after chloramines are neutralized.....here's the exact email I received and again, its a personal choice but I would suggest using Prime or another product that you are SURE neutrailizes like we all thought Stress Coat+ did..

"Dear Ms. *****

Thank you very much for contacting us regarding our products. All of your comments and questions are valuable. We use your feedback to create the most effective line of aquarium and pond products available.

Shawn Stresscoat+ will not neutralize or remove nitrites. It does lock up small amounts of ammonia but usually just enough to cover ammonia produced after chloramines are neutralized.

If you have any other questions or wish to discuss this further, please email back or give us a call at 1-800-847-0659.

Best Regards,
Nathan Fekula
Technical Service and Research
Mars Fishcare

50 EAST HAMILTON ST
PO BOX 218
CHALFONT, PA 18914-0218

serissime

Thanks for the heads-up, Shawnie. Yet another reason for me to pimp Prime

Lucy

Shawnie, thank you so much for doing this research.

I agree, mary.

CHoffman

Hmmm..This is great info to know. Thanks shawnie for taking the time to find out the truth and posting it here. I never have had an ammonia or nitrite problem but I used the stresscoat plus as a security blanket, it made me feel better knowing that if something did happen it would keep me covered. I guess I'll have to switch to Prime as my security blanket..lol..

Shawnie

prime or amquel + seem to be readily available around here..not sure with anyone else...and you are welcome I just hope everyone that relies on it for detoxing, realizes that its not doing what ALOT of us thought it was doing....still wish I could remember the member who brought it up awhile ago so I could thank him.....

Beth1965

Shawnie:
You Rock!

ccb04

Shawnie, you might be referring to me from this thread:

Prime vs StressCoat+

sirdarksol

Thanks for checking this out and sharing the info with us, Shawnie.
Also going to make my requisite plug for Novaqua and Ultimate, both of which are equivalent products to Prime.

Shawnie

Indeed it was you ccb!!!! Thank you for pointing that out and since April 10th (that date of the post) ive been calling and emailing to get answers LOL

and SDS, anything that detoxes like prime is great to list.....

although I will state, I still use Stress Coat+ as my water conditioner as I dont have ammonia and nitrite issues but I want to stress to not recommend it for ppl cycling or having an issue with them...

dancerhas

oooh! Massively interesting tidbit. I switched to Prime because it was so highly recommended and because it's SO much more economical than SC+. This makes me even happier about my decision. Props to you Shawnie!

Nate McFin

Hmm...could have told me one day sooner. LOL
Just bought a bottle yesterday. Story of my life. HAHA

Shawnie

its FABOOO for water conditioner nate...so dont return it..it just doesnt do the job for ammonia and nitrites

ccb04

Shawnie, you did all the hard work. Thank you!

The fact that SC+ detoxes essentially just the ammonia released by the breaking of the chloramine bond certainly isn't a bad thing.

More recently, I've been using either API Tap Water Conditioner or NovAqua+ since establishing my tank with TSS ... though I do keep Prime on hand.

carlos413

Prime or amquel + for me, I prefer PRIME cuz I trust Seachem to the fullest

pinkfloydpuffer

Thanks for looking into that, Shawnie!

I'm glad I didn't trust StressCoat+ to do that for me all along Prime all the way for me.

aquarist48

Thank you Shawnie for the hard work and information. I have to declare I'm hooked on Amquel + and Nova Aqua +. I've used them all for years. (and Immune Plus). Have a good day today everyone!

jdhef

Great job Shawnie! Now I want to apoligize to everyone that I recommended Stress Coat+ as a detox to.

Shawnie

ccb was the one who deserves the thanks!! I wouldnt have done a thing if I hadnt read that info...I think alot of us have recommended it... and if you read your bottle, it does say it will detox ammonia...but I think its meaning from the tap water ...

sirdarksol

That's what the response you got from the makers of SC says. It likely has the same chemical as Prime et al, but only a little bit.

It's so awesome that many of these companies are open about the products they make. I've seen situations where the company will send a letter that is made to seem like it's answering the question while it's really dodging all of the important issues, but on the forum, we've had many times that someone has contacted a company and received a straightforward answer.

IIIHawKIII

thanks to both of you for the sleuthing! so which one of you is sherlock and which one is holmes?

just got a bottle of this, but i got it for the aloe stuff.

i think it is kinda crazy how much you have to add. i'm a prime guy....ahahaahha....a guy who uses prime, that is, and i'm used to using DROPS as opposed to 15 mL.

Shawnie

ccb has to be sherlock..the smart one im holmes that did the diggin...(only because I didnt read the bottle properly LOL) but ccb made me totally curious and whenever someone says something that ive not heard about, I have to investigate further...and I agree hawk, you are a "prime" kinda guy

acidpope

When I first started my tank I used Stresscoat +, but it covered the equipment, decor and air lines in my tank with a film and when I moved them it became free floating and left hanging pieces on the objects. It didn't hurt the fish any, but it was unsightly. I figured it was the Aloe in it. I stopped using it and switched to Aquasafe by Tetra which worked fine. Then I started ordering Prime from Dr. Foster & Smith because I didn't see it at the local Petco. Finally one day when I was browsing in Petco I found Prime in of all places the salt water conditioning area which I never looked in because I have FW fish. So if you don't see Prime at Petco, check the salt water conditioning area and they'll more than likely have it. Not sure why it's not on the shelf with all the other water conditioners. Prime is the way to go though.

Lucy

My post is off topic, so I apologize but thanks for this acidpope.
I had this happen too and was almost positive it was from SC+. A few members have asked about it and I mentioned I thought it was from the water conditioner.

Nate McFin

I use stress coat + on occasion as I am trying to get rid of the bottle I had. I haven't noticed any slime in the tank but when it dries in the lid you sure can see it and it is quite slimy. Fish are slimy too so it makes sense that it would be too as it is supposed to rejuvinate the fish slime coat.

orisue

Your awesome lol

izzyfishfarmer

Thanks for your hard work shawnie i know i bit late but thanks anyways

Kathy Potts

We live in the country and our water comes from a deep well, so therefore, no chloramine additives. So, would the Stress Coat+ work a little more efficiently on ammonia if it doesn't have to expend itself on the chloramine? I trust the other products mentioned work the best. I will have to try them. I mainly use Stress Coat because of its replacement of slime coat and electrolyte loss reduction. The Aloe Vera in it really draws me to the product. Aloe Vera definitely has some pros going for it.

fresh water

good job guys great info

BB3Lions

So are you advocating we should not use Stresscoat+ at all or continue using it for water changes & buy Prime and use that as another tool?

A link to the product Prime would be appreciated.


Regards

BB

btate617

http://www.seachem.com/Products/prod...ges/Prime.html


Brian