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May 17th, 2009
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| | Fish Master
| if you use stress coat + PLEASE read..... After ccb04 suggested a month or so ago about Stress Coat+ doing nothing for nitrites, ive done a ton of research, calling Mars Fishcare (makers of stress coat+ ) and emailing them, and this is something I feel should be posted and listened to...Im not sure where the original information came from but this is something I am going to suggest and certainly everyone can make their decision...
Stress Coat + does NOTneutralize nitrites a single bit and it only neutralizes ammonia to the extent that it locks up a tiny bit of it that is produced after chloramines are neutralized.....here's the exact email I received and again, its a personal choice but I would suggest using Prime or another product that you are SURE neutrailizes like we all thought Stress Coat+ did..
"Dear Ms. *****
Thank you very much for contacting us regarding our products. All of your comments and questions are valuable. We use your feedback to create the most effective line of aquarium and pond products available.
Shawn Stresscoat+ will not neutralize or remove nitrites. It does lock up small amounts of ammonia but usually just enough to cover ammonia produced after chloramines are neutralized.
If you have any other questions or wish to discuss this further, please email back or give us a call at 1-800-847-0659.
Best Regards,
Nathan Fekula
Technical Service and Research
Mars Fishcare
50 EAST HAMILTON ST
PO BOX 218
CHALFONT, PA 18914-0218 Last edited by Shawnie; May 17th, 2009 at 07:55 PM.
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May 17th, 2009
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| | Fish Addict
| Thanks for the heads-up, Shawnie. Yet another reason for me to pimp Prime  |
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May 17th, 2009
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| Shawnie, thank you so much for doing this research.
I agree, mary.  |
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May 17th, 2009
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| | Fish Master
| Hmmm..This is great info to know. Thanks shawnie for taking the time to find out the truth and posting it here. I never have had an ammonia or nitrite problem but I used the stresscoat plus as a security blanket, it made me feel better knowing that if something did happen it would keep me covered. I guess I'll have to switch to Prime as my security blanket..lol.. |
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May 17th, 2009
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| prime or amquel + seem to be readily available around here..not sure with anyone else...and you are welcome I just hope everyone that relies on it for detoxing, realizes that its not doing what ALOT of us thought it was doing....still wish I could remember the member who brought it up awhile ago so I could thank him..... |
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May 17th, 2009
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| Shawnie:
You Rock!  |
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May 17th, 2009
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| Quote:
Originally Posted by Shawnie After a member (I wish I could remember who) suggested a month or so ago about Stress Coat+ doing nothing for nitrites | Shawnie, you might be referring to me from this thread: Prime vs StressCoat+ |
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May 17th, 2009
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| Thanks for checking this out and sharing the info with us, Shawnie.
Also going to make my requisite plug for Novaqua and Ultimate, both of which are equivalent products to Prime. |
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May 17th, 2009
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| Quote:
Originally Posted by ccb04 | Indeed it was you ccb!!!!  Thank you for pointing that out and since April 10th (that date of the post) ive been calling and emailing to get answers LOL
and SDS, anything that detoxes like prime is great to list.....
although I will state, I still use Stress Coat+ as my water conditioner as I dont have ammonia and nitrite issues but I want to stress to not recommend it for ppl cycling or having an issue with them... |
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May 17th, 2009
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| oooh! Massively interesting tidbit. I switched to Prime because it was so highly recommended and because it's SO much more economical than SC+. This makes me even happier about my decision. Props to you Shawnie! |
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May 17th, 2009
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| Hmm...could have told me one day sooner. LOL
Just bought a bottle yesterday. Story of my life. HAHA |
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May 17th, 2009
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| its FABOOO for water conditioner nate...so dont return it..it just doesnt do the job for ammonia and nitrites |
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May 17th, 2009
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| Shawnie, you did all the hard work. Thank you!
The fact that SC+ detoxes essentially just the ammonia released by the breaking of the chloramine bond certainly isn't a bad thing.
More recently, I've been using either API Tap Water Conditioner or NovAqua+ since establishing my tank with TSS ... though I do keep Prime on hand. |
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May 17th, 2009
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| Prime or amquel + for me, I prefer PRIME cuz I trust Seachem to the fullest  |
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May 18th, 2009
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| | Fish Master
| Thanks for looking into that, Shawnie!
I'm glad I didn't trust StressCoat+ to do that for me all along  Prime all the way for me. |
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May 18th, 2009
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| Thank you Shawnie for the hard work and information. I have to declare I'm hooked on Amquel + and Nova Aqua +. I've used them all for years. (and Immune Plus). Have a good day today everyone! |
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May 21st, 2009
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| Great job Shawnie! Now I want to apoligize to everyone that I recommended Stress Coat+ as a detox to. |
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May 21st, 2009
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| Quote:
Originally Posted by jdhef Great job Shawnie! Now I want to apoligize to everyone that I recommended Stress Coat+ as a detox to. | ccb was the one who deserves the thanks!! I wouldnt have done a thing if I hadnt read that info...I think alot of us have recommended it... and if you read your bottle, it does say it will detox ammonia...but I think its meaning from the tap water ... |
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May 23rd, 2009
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| Quote:
Originally Posted by Shawnie and if you read your bottle, it does say it will detox ammonia...but I think its meaning from the tap water ... | That's what the response you got from the makers of SC says. It likely has the same chemical as Prime et al, but only a little bit.
It's so awesome that many of these companies are open about the products they make. I've seen situations where the company will send a letter that is made to seem like it's answering the question while it's really dodging all of the important issues, but on the forum, we've had many times that someone has contacted a company and received a straightforward answer. |
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May 23rd, 2009
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| | Fish Addict
| thanks to both of you for the sleuthing! so which one of you is sherlock and which one is holmes?
just got a bottle of this, but i got it for the aloe stuff.
i think it is kinda crazy how much you have to add. i'm a prime guy....ahahaahha....a guy who uses prime, that is,  and i'm used to using DROPS as opposed to 15 mL. |
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May 23rd, 2009
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| Quote:
Originally Posted by IIIHawKIII thanks to both of you for the sleuthing! so which one of you is sherlock and which one is holmes?
just got a bottle of this, but i got it for the aloe stuff.
i think it is kinda crazy how much you have to add. i'm a prime guy....ahahaahha....a guy who uses prime, that is,  and i'm used to using DROPS as opposed to 15 mL. | ccb has to be sherlock..the smart one  im holmes that did the diggin...(only because I didnt read the bottle properly LOL) but ccb made me totally curious and whenever someone says something that ive not heard about, I have to investigate further...and I agree hawk, you are a "prime" kinda guy  |
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July 9th, 2009
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| When I first started my tank I used Stresscoat +, but it covered the equipment, decor and air lines in my tank with a film and when I moved them it became free floating and left hanging pieces on the objects. It didn't hurt the fish any, but it was unsightly. I figured it was the Aloe in it. I stopped using it and switched to Aquasafe by Tetra which worked fine. Then I started ordering Prime from Dr. Foster & Smith because I didn't see it at the local Petco. Finally one day when I was browsing in Petco I found Prime in of all places the salt water conditioning area which I never looked in because I have FW fish. So if you don't see Prime at Petco, check the salt water conditioning area and they'll more than likely have it. Not sure why it's not on the shelf with all the other water conditioners. Prime is the way to go though. |
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July 9th, 2009
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| Quote:
Originally Posted by acidpope When I first started my tank I used Stresscoat +, but it covered the equipment, decor and air lines in my tank with a film and when I moved them it became free floating and left hanging pieces on the objects. | My post is off topic, so I apologize but thanks for this acidpope.
I had this happen too and was almost positive it was from SC+. A few members have asked about it and I mentioned I thought it was from the water conditioner. |
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July 9th, 2009
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| I use stress coat + on occasion as I am trying to get rid of the bottle I had. I haven't noticed any slime in the tank but when it dries in the lid you sure can see it and it is quite slimy. Fish are slimy too so it makes sense that it would be too as it is supposed to rejuvinate the fish slime coat. |
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July 24th, 2010
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| Your awesome lol |
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July 24th, 2010
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| Thanks for your hard work shawnie i know i bit late but thanks anyways  |
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July 24th, 2010
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| We live in the country and our water comes from a deep well, so therefore, no chloramine additives. So, would the Stress Coat+ work a little more efficiently on ammonia if it doesn't have to expend itself on the chloramine? I trust the other products mentioned work the best. I will have to try them. I mainly use Stress Coat because of its replacement of slime coat and electrolyte loss reduction. The Aloe Vera in it really draws me to the product. Aloe Vera definitely has some pros going for it. |
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September 2nd, 2010
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| good job guys great info  |
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December 16th, 2010
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| So are you advocating we should not use Stresscoat+ at all or continue using it for water changes & buy Prime and use that as another tool?
A link to the product Prime would be appreciated.
Regards
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