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Old September 16th, 2009  
Fish Bum
 
Removed the harassed fish. Wise?

Well, I don't know if it's preferred to leave fish to "figure things out" on their own, or to intervene. I chose the later. As mentioned in another thread, I added, over the course of a week, a Blue johanni, a yellow-tailed acei and two Yellow labs. The dominant lab was relentless on the subdominant to a point where he stayed vertical behind the in-tank filter and corner glass. His tail had been pretty nipped up, too. (I'll have to watch closely for fin rot and/or fungus).

Since I'm not used to all the "Malawi Mayhem" (with apologies to the website), I had mercy and removed the beaten male to my fry/quarantine tank. Not sure what to do at this point other than to add more fish. I had actually gone to my LFS today for just that, but he advised against it. He recommended that I let it stabilize for about a week. I agree and I don't want to crash the cycle.

(He also scolded me for putting two males of the same species against his recommentdation. Said even labs will be intolerant of competing males. He had warned me, but you know newbies...)

So, what now? Leave Mr. Wimp in the fry tank indefinitely? Put him back in the African tank after the population builds up? If he's the only other lab, will more fish even make a difference or will the dominant male still single him out?

Oh. And by the way, the Blue Johanni is also starting to assert himself. Luckily, the targets don't seem intimidated to the point the yellow did.

Sheesh. What a zoo. (I'm lovin' it!)
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Old September 16th, 2009  
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I don't know about the "Malawi mayhem" either but I would think I would leave him out of the tank. Seems more sensible for now at least until he's well. I'm sure someone with more malawi experience will come by and recommend something.
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Old September 16th, 2009  
Fish Master
 
nawty newbie!!! LOL (just razzing)
I would leave him out also if he has damage and boo boo's .....daily partial water changes with some stress coat should clean him up in a couple weeks...and yes you ALWAYS need to stock 1m to 2-3f....even labs, once again, are agressive ...ALL african cichlids have tudes...some more than others but nonetheless, stocking properly is a must....your zoo will be amazing once its stocked and you will really enjoy the tank....adding a ton more caves and removing the dominant one for an hour prior to adding new fish, will help....but until he has some gals to keep him totally busy, he may always be boss of the tank...I have about 10 bosses and 10 followers ...mine is not stocked properly but because its overstocked, I think thats kepts all the bosses so busy they dont pick on just one ..make sense ? (or a ramble like i usually do LOL)
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Old September 16th, 2009  
Fish Bum
 
Yeah, too bad newbie mistakes are manifest in sick or injured fish. I truly regret buying 2 male labs. I thought I could get away with it on less aggressive species. I was wrong.

The beaten male has developed the ubiquitous fuzz fungus on his tail and dorsal fin. I've added a dose of Melafix to the tank. Hopefully, he will mend quickly. I don't know how (or when) to re-introduce him to the jungle, though. For now, I just need to get him healthy.

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Old September 17th, 2009  
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daily partial water changes with some stress coat or prime will do wonders...but it will take a couple weeks....feed him small (the size of one of his eyes) pieces of fresh garlic also..that will help his immune system...ud readd him when you add 3-4 more with some fems mixed it
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Old September 18th, 2009  
Fish Bum
 
He's doing much better. The entire tail fin completely fell off. It looks like heck, but he has perked up, is now swimming around the 10g and is eating well. The Melafix took care of the fuzz. Now it just looks a little raw (and it's sore I bet). I'll keep him in the li'l hospital until I've up'ed the lab population as suggested...or I might trade him off.

But, a friend has some juvenile Labidochromis sp. "Hongi" and Pseudotropheus elongatus. A juvie for a tattered teenager? Sounds like a fair trade to me . . .

Thanks for the help!

Darrell
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