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August 3rd, 2009
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| | Fish Master | Another Cichlid I'm wanting to add more fish to my 120gallon. Right now the current stocking is 2 Angel Fish (breeding pair). 10 Gold Barbs (wanting to get more to make a bigger school) 6 ottos and 8 cories. I'll be adding more ottos and cories as well. Is there another cichlid that I could add to the mix?? I want it to be on the peaceful side because right now I have harmony. I have hard water. 7.8 to 8.2 pH. I thought about Rams but I don't know?? I wouldn't want to lose any. What are your guy's suggestions. |
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August 3rd, 2009
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| | Fish Keeper | Look into Aphysemion sp. A Nice top dwellers.
W/ high pH as such, and willing to take a chance, look into these Cichlids. Chromidotilapia finleyi (many color morph avail), C. guntheri, Nanochrnois nudicep and its cousins but not all such as N. transvestitus (requires very acidic water), Teleogramma brichardi and its cousins. Find the ones which are found in upper pH range.
If water is hard and high in pH. and it may be out of place, look into Captive bred Neolamprologus multi, ocellatus, ornatipinnis etc from Lake Tang.
I would not temp GBR in such water though. Last edited by cerianthus; August 3rd, 2009 at 04:16 PM.
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August 3rd, 2009
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| | Moderator | blood red parrots  love em and great with angels in my tank |
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August 3rd, 2009
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| | Fish Keeper | Quote:
Originally Posted by Shawnie blood red parrots  love em and great with angels in my tank | Ditto what she said. I love those fish and they are hysterical. You never know what they are going to do next. They do like to redecorate a good bit and I call my two bulldozers. If you like personality in a fish they definitely have it. |
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August 3rd, 2009
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| | Fish Mentor | My parrot would be much too aggressive for angelfish. It just happens that way every now and then. A severum might work, or a blue acara. Bolivian rams are quite adaptable to a range of water parameters, they could work instead. |
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August 3rd, 2009
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| | Fish Master | Quote:
Originally Posted by cerianthus Look into Aphysemion sp. A Nice top dwellers.
W/ high pH as such, and willing to take a chance, look into these Cichlids. Chromidotilapia finleyi (many color morph avail), C. guntheri, Nanochrnois nudicep and its cousins but not all such as N. transvestitus (requires very acidic water), Teleogramma brichardi and its cousins. Find the ones which are found in upper pH range.
If water is hard and high in pH. and it may be out of place, look into Captive bred Neolamprologus multi, ocellatus, ornatipinnis etc from Lake Tang.
I would not temp GBR in such water though. | Thanks for the suggestions cerianthus, I'm going to have to research those guys. You always have unique fish stocking ideas and a ton of info!! Thanks again Quote:
Originally Posted by Shawnie blood red parrots  love em and great with angels in my tank | Quote:
Originally Posted by SWilkins Ditto what she said. I love those fish and they are hysterical. You never know what they are going to do next. They do like to redecorate a good bit and I call my two bulldozers. If you like personality in a fish they definitely have it. | I want one sooooo badly!!. Jeff doesn't like the look of them though.  (I didn't at first either, but everyone loves them and I'm more impressed with their personality's.) But I'm thinking it's my tank right!!.  Plus I could just go buy one and not tell him and just slip it in there. Once he sees how cute and personable they are he won't mind. That's my big plan anyway 
Do they do better with two or just 1? |
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August 3rd, 2009
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| | Moderator | hahahaah boo on jeff!! he has a ton of empty tanks to make his own  and if you get one, you must have 2 as they do much better with company and feel much more safe and relaxed  |
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August 3rd, 2009
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| | Fish Keeper | Quote:
Originally Posted by Shawnie hahahaah boo on jeff!! he has a ton of empty tanks to make his own  and if you get one, you must have 2 as they do much better with company and feel much more safe and relaxed  | Again ditto what she said LOL. Mine are funny. I had three and they have been around here for 3-4 years I would say. I lost one last year. I do have to say my kids got them for me and all I could think was what a strange fish now what am I going to do with that. Now I would not be without them!!! |
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August 3rd, 2009
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| | Fish Addict | Lake Tanganyika shell dwellers are rather feisty. I would worry about your angel getting stressed out by them.
I'm afraid the ottos and corydoras wouldn't handle shellies very well at all.
Stay with the SA theme.
I have (locally bred) blue German rams in my 8.1 water. It is medium soft GH 6.
I've read that after a pair have formed, they don't tollerate other GBRs, so that would limit you with them.
If you can find locally bred Bolivian rams, you could have a nice group of them, easily enough, in your 120G.
alicem |
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August 3rd, 2009
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| | Fish Master | Quote:
Originally Posted by alicem Lake Tanganyika shell dwellers are rather feisty. I would worry about your angel getting stressed out by them.
I'm afraid the ottos and corydoras wouldn't handle shellies very well at all.
Stay with the SA theme.
I have (locally bred) blue German rams in my 8.1 water. It is medium soft GH 6.
I've read that after a pair have formed, they don't tollerate other GBRs, so that would limit you with them.
If you can find locally bred Bolivian rams, you could have a nice group of them, easily enough, in your 120G.
alicem | Do you still breed them?  ohh wait..I see you have them not breed them..Got ya..Hmmm..to bad.  |
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August 3rd, 2009
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| | Fish Keeper | Festivums may work as it seems the bottom of you tank is filling up.
Brian |
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August 3rd, 2009
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| | Fish Mentor | Quote:
Originally Posted by btate617 Festivums may work as it seems the bottom of you tank is filling up.
Brian | Possibly, but our festie doesn't always play nice with our angel.  |
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August 3rd, 2009
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| | Fish Keeper | I wouldn't either in a smaller tank, but in a 120 they may/should be ok, not saying yours is a small tank I forget what size yours is.
And as always with cichlids there is no for sure answer until you try it.
Brian |
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August 3rd, 2009
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| | Fish Keeper | [quote=CHoffman;642631]Thanks for the suggestions cerianthus, I'm going to have to research those guys. You always have unique fish stocking ideas and a ton of info!! Thanks again
I want your tank to be unique. LOL!
I sure would like to hear other species to be kept (not a wild one but captive bred) to broaden our member's visions and knowledge..
As far as Parrots, flowerhorn, I am one of very rare one who refuse to accept the concept of manmade fish for very simple reason.
More money these farmers take in from distributing manmade fish, much of that money will go to develop more odd fish, such as tattoo fish and selectively breeding some deformed fish, then put a hefty price tag (I heard some one paid few thousand for one flowerhorn) with some weird name to draw attention of unsuspecting fish keepes.
Unfortunately too many uninformed/unweary and weary fish keepers are out there constantly fueling such practice. I hear so many saying how cruel such practices are yet keep promoting such practices.
I was watching some program on Animal Planet where some are selectively breeding two headed red ear sliders. It sells for few hundred bucks If I heard them correctly. It seems such practices do results in rejects and I wondered what would happened to those rejects (those poor sliders). I am sure breeders would not keep or raise when they hold no value. I find such practices unacceptable.
What can I do but to inform. No one is perfect, including myself but trying! LOL.
Good night and Good Luck with search.
PS. Look into local Cichlid/Fish club. You dont have to attend all the meetings but you can receive newsletter/magazine. This was best way for me to meet, broaden my vision and find very unique fish from members at surprisingly low cost and best of all in excellent health because they all were nutcakes like me (from non hobbyist's point of views)LOL! Last edited by cerianthus; August 3rd, 2009 at 07:29 PM.
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August 3rd, 2009
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| | Fish Mentor | Quote:
Originally Posted by btate617 I wouldn't either in a smaller tank, but in a 120 they may/should be ok, not saying yours is a small tank I forget what size yours is.
And as always with cichlids there is no for sure answer until you try it.
Brian |
LOL.... our angel and festie are also in a 120 gallon, along with an F0 Rotkeil severum pair (not proven) and a bunch of schoolers.  There is never any damage so far, but it's something we need to keep an eye on. |
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August 3rd, 2009
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| | Fish Keeper | Kribs would be a great choice. Mine live with Angels,Corys and Platys and they all get along fine. Their tank is only 39gals too. |
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August 3rd, 2009
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| | Fish Keeper | Quote:
Originally Posted by harpua2002 LOL.... our angel and festie are also in a 120 gallon, along with an F0 Rotkeil severum pair (not proven) and a bunch of schoolers.  There is never any damage so far, but it's something we need to keep an eye on. | Yes I went a looked after I posted that but then got busy.........
Harpua has tried it so I may go with their opinion on this one.
Brian |
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August 3rd, 2009
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| | Fish Mentor | Oh, I'd still say go for it... I haven't seen fin damage, just chasing and minor aggression. We started with 2 angels and now have one. Given our stock list, there's no telling whodunit.
I would imagine that OP's angels are larger than ours if they are breeding; introducing a smaller festie might just be the ticket. |
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