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Old April 26th, 2008  
Fish Keeper
 
Ok...10 gallon Cichlid question

What can fit in there? I was looking on the Cichlid-Forum, and for the "cookie-cutter" size, there was the Cockatoo, which is too rich for my blood, and the the other two needed too low of a p.h. then what I have. I have a sand substrate, and thinking about it, would a male be okay by itself? I don't really want fry, and was thinking maybe just a male would be okay by itself, or maybe with a couple Cory's of some kind? Do GBR's need company? I've seen these at one place and thought they were gorgeous.

I suppose my other option would be shell-dwellers. I'm not sure I understand if they need shells (sorry for the newbie questions), or what, but I'm kinda looking for something with a bit more colour than what the http://www.cichlid-forum.com/article...cutter_10g.php site showed. I may be asking too much for even wanting a Cichlid in a 10 gallon, but figured I would ask some people first. Thanks,

Cory
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Old April 26th, 2008  
Fish Master
 
IMO 10 gallon is too small for any cichlids..its great for a betta or a small tetra school but I dont think cichlids would be content in that small of an area..im sure others will have more opinions goodluck cory!
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Old April 26th, 2008  
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Heres a list of different shell dwellers that can live in a 10G
http://www.cichlidrecipe.com/shellweb/shell_species.htm
Heres a list with pictures. Shellies do require shells although some will make their homes under rocks if no shells are available.
Here's a list with pictures. some shelldwellers are very brightly colored.
http://www.shelldwellers.com/index.php?board=3.0
This is my Multi tank-
Multi tank
Carol
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Old April 26th, 2008  
Fish Keeper
 
Ok, I've done a bit of reading, and Shellie's look like they could be really cool. So far, I think I'm leaning towards Lamprologus stappersi, Lamprologus speciosus or Lamprologus ocellatus. I may be leaning towards the Ocellatus though, they look neat I know I need to research more, but those three just really jumped out at me. For the shells, where would I get some? Do I need specailized shells? Or can I go to a craft store and get some? Thanks for the help Butterfly

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Old April 26th, 2008  
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Some of my shells came from the dollar Store and some from Petsmart it doesn't seem to matter what kind they are.
Carol
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Old April 26th, 2008  
Fish Keeper
 
Cool Does it matter what size they are?
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Old April 27th, 2008  
Master Of Fish Poo!
 
Those small cichlids would seem to be the ones for a 10g tank. I'm not sure if there are many cichlids that like to be solitary, but Butterfly has the best cichlid suggestion for a 10g tank.
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Old April 27th, 2008  
Fish Keeper
 
Well, after even research, I think I'm going the Butterfly route and getting some Multi's However, no comes the hard part...finding them I'll keep you all updated,

Cory
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Old April 27th, 2008  
Fish Keeper
 
Well, I asked my LFS today about ordering some, and they said they needed to talk to their manager, so there's a slight hope. Would hermit crab shells work well in here? Thanks,

Cory
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Old May 5th, 2008  
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Check Craiglist, and try posting a "wanted" listing on the trading post at cichlid-forum. You could also check out shelldwellers.com, both for more info and possible finding some stock.
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Old May 5th, 2008  
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Cool Does it matter what size they are?
Mine always seem to pick the smallest shells to breed in so no the size doesn't really matter although I try to put shells of all different sizes in because I like them also
If there is an aquarium club close by theres sure to be someone breeding Multis. a 10G is a good place to start with a trio(1 male, 2 females) of multis but they will soon "Multi"ply you into a bigger tank. Our first trio started in a ten gallon then went to a fifteen gallon then into a thirty gallon
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Old May 5th, 2008  
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I saw some shell dwellers for the first time yesterday at the fish store. They really are pretty little things...
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Old May 5th, 2008  
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I saw some shell dwellers for the first time yesterday at the fish store. They really are pretty little things...
Do you remember what kind they were ?
Carol
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Old May 5th, 2008  
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No I didnt look close enough. The tag just said shell dwellers. But didnt read the small print since I was not going to get any. They had pretty nice dorsal fins, and were without much color. Does that help?
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Old May 5th, 2008  
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Still nothing.....I've posted an add on Shell-Dwellers, and I'll try one on Cichlid-Forum now. Thanks for all the help so far,

Cory
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Old May 5th, 2008  
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You may want to try www.aquabid.com too
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Old May 5th, 2008  
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No I didnt look close enough. The tag just said shell dwellers. But didnt read the small print since I was not going to get any. They had pretty nice dorsal fins, and were without much color. Does that help?
Could have been N. brevis
http://www.shelldwellers.com/index.php/topic,806.0.html
This is what I want one of these days
http://www.shelldwellers.com/index.php/topic,816.0.html
and this- but these are a bit aggressive I understand.
http://www.cichlids.com/pictures/pic..._Daffodil.html
Sorry for the hijack
Carol
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Old May 5th, 2008  
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They looked like young N. Brevis. Probably a common type?
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Old May 5th, 2008  
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Brevis and Multis are fairly common and really cool too
Carol
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Old May 5th, 2008  
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If I ever decide to get another small tank, like a ten gal. I think I would like to add solely shell dwellers to it.
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Old May 5th, 2008  
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They are absolutely fascinating to watch, but be aware that once they start breeding you will have to upgrade to a larger tank. Shellies (shelldwellers) don't as a rule eat their fry and will live in colonies with several groups of fry at one time with out the fry being eaten. For this reason it is best they be kept alone because other fish tend to eat their fry.
Carol
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Old May 5th, 2008  
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They are absolutely fascinating to watch, but be aware that once they start breeding you will have to upgrade to a larger tank. Shellies (shelldwellers) don't as a rule eat their fry and will live in colonies with several groups of fry at one time with out the fry being eaten. For this reason it is best they be kept alone because other fish tend to eat their fry.
Carol
Thanks Carol...
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Old May 6th, 2008  
Master Of Fish Poo!
 
How are your shellies doing btw? I think we could have a 20g for the fry when you're ready to ship.
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Old May 7th, 2008  
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How are your shellies doing btw? I think we could have a 20g for the fry when you're ready to ship.
Their still re-arranging the tank. They have buried all the shells except the ones they are living in A couple of them are still a little young so I may have to wait longer than I thought for fry but you are at the top of the list
It's just so amazing to watch them spit sand at each other like they are big boys and girls LOL
carol
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Old May 7th, 2008  
Fish Keeper
 
[quote=KonaBoy;358470]Still nothing.....I've posted an add on Shell-Dwellers, and I'll try one on Cichlid-Forum now. Thanks for all the help so far,

Cory[/quote

Hi Cory..I know what you mean about not having a source for cichlids.....I had resigned to using Aquabid or one of the online stores.

However, I don'[t know how often , if at all, you get to Duluth, but if so, try this place. It is a neat fish store, lots of tanks and stuff; some of the ususual "usual" fish,

"World of Fish"
5211 Miller Trunk Highway
218-729-5161

It is just before the Miller Hill Mall on the way into town, and is open Sundays.

Good luck!

Val
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Old May 7th, 2008  
Fish Keeper
 
Thanks for the advice, but the chances of me going to Duluth are slim to none Do you know of any online stores that ship in or to Canada?
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Old May 8th, 2008  
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Well, I have found a source of apistogramma borelli, and from what I've read, a 10 gallon would work for a pair, so I'm going to go with those
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Old May 9th, 2008  
Master Of Fish Poo!
 
Great! Looking forward to pics.
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Old May 9th, 2008  
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Well, I have found a source of apistogramma borelli, and from what I've read, a 10 gallon would work for a pair, so I'm going to go with those

That is great! Is it a local guy or store? I would love to know of a source for small interesting cichlids.

The borelli are sure handsome little guys, and I am sure will be so interesting! I hope you will keep us posted when you get them, with pics if poss!


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Old May 9th, 2008  
Fish Keeper
 
He's in Thunder Bay, so a bit of a trip for you, but close for me. If you're a member of PlantGeek, he has his own sub-forum, Thunder Bay Aquascapes or something.
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