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Old November 13th, 2006  
Fish Master
 
Breeding BN's anybody

From what I can figure out no petstores by me can get BN plecos anymore and they seem to be a popular fish. So as a way to help save common plecos also I'd like to try breeding BN plecos and selling them to LFS's as an alternative for them to sell instead of common plecos since they sell those and they shouldn't. If anybody has any expierence in this and would like to enlighten me I'd love to know all there is to know. I'v heard it's easy and they lay their eggs on the inside of a cave I think.
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Old November 13th, 2006  
Fish Mentor
 
Re: Breeding BN's anybody

I beleive that Butterfly has experience.
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Old November 13th, 2006  
Fish Master
 
Re: Breeding BN's anybody

Yes I'm waiting for a reply
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Old November 14th, 2006  
Fish Master
 
Re: Breeding BN's anybody

It would be really nice, thoughtful, and responsible of you ATM, to offer BN catfish to your LFS, so that they don't have to sell common plecos that usually are way too large for most people's tanks. Yes, I also believe Carol has raised successfully some BNs
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Old November 14th, 2006  
Fish Master
 
Re: Breeding BN's anybody

Yup i'v got some help from somebody else though my problem would be getting them to buy from private breeders.
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Old November 14th, 2006  
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Re: Breeding BN's anybody

Yes I have had several successful spawnings What I did was get six or seven BN and put them in a 30G tank to grow up together a little. The reason for that many is to make sure you get a pair. They will spawn from about 7 mos to a year old.
Then when they are old enough I do a huge water change and feed them up on lots of veggies, Bloodworms,shrimp pellets etc. anything high in protein. In general BN's need a ratio of 90/10 veggies to protein, but at spawning time they appreciate a little more protein.
Carol
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Old December 16th, 2006  
Fish Master
 
Re: Breeding BN's anybody

Would I be able to keep the babies in the large tank or would a 5.5 galon tank be good for raising them?
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Old December 16th, 2006  
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Re: Breeding BN's anybody

since dad guards the egs and mom goes on her merry way I usually move the cave , dad and eggs to another tank with a sponge filter. Dad will not eat until the fry are free swimming and out of the cave. when they are free swimming and out of the cave(Dad and cave go back to his tank) about two days then I start putting in sliced zucchini after about two more days they will discover the zucchini. from then on you need to do 50% water changes and change their food EACH day. I use a 10g tank for about 2 weeks (so they don't have to hunt so far for food) then they go into a 30G rubbermaid tub for grow-out at about 4-6 weeks they go to Dinos and into a much larger tank to grow some more
With any type of pleco the size of the bottom is really inportant rather than a tall tank. austin the 5.5G would work for about a week then they would be very crowded.
Carol
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Old December 16th, 2006  
Fish Master
 
Re: Breeding BN's anybody

Ok my mom has already said ok, I just need to find a female.
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Old December 16th, 2006  
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Re: Breeding BN's anybody

Do you have a male BN?
Carol
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Old December 16th, 2006  
Fish Master
 
Re: Breeding BN's anybody

Ya
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Old December 16th, 2006  
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Re: Breeding BN's anybody

Heres some not real good pics of my albino BN babies. They are about 1-1/2 inch to 2 inches
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Old December 16th, 2006  
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Re: Breeding BN's anybody

And my 1/2 inch long fin albino BN fry
Carol
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Old December 16th, 2006  
Tom
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Re: Breeding BN's anybody

Very cute.
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Old December 16th, 2006  
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Re: Breeding BN's anybody

Thanks
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Old December 16th, 2006  
Tom
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Re: Breeding BN's anybody

How long do the albino BN's grow too?
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Old December 16th, 2006  
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Re: Breeding BN's anybody

Generally 4-5 inches. I have seen males go 6 inches.
Carol
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Old December 17th, 2006  
Fish Master
 
Re: Breeding BN's anybody

Well I called the store that usually has them and they don't have any right now so they say so I emailed the owner hoping he can tell me when they'l get some in so I can hopefully them some before my surgery and before there sale ends since they have 25% off everything, in-stock, livestock, and ON Sale items. I really like that on sale part since they usually have their fish on sale so you can get them really cheap and their good quality too.

Austin
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Old January 4th, 2007  
Tom
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Re: Breeding BN's anybody

What is the name of the store?
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Old January 5th, 2007  
Fish Master
 
Re: Breeding BN's anybody

You wouldn't know the name, it's a small chain of three now two stores by me, sorry.
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Old January 6th, 2007  
Tom
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Re: Breeding BN's anybody

Thanks anyways.
Tom
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Old January 6th, 2007  
Fish Bum
 
Re: Breeding BN's anybody

Awwwwe, what cuties Carol.......

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Old January 23rd, 2007  
Fish Master
 
Re: Breeding BN's anybody

Hey butterfly the store finally got some in and I'd like to get a female but should I buy a couple to figure out which is a female as they are probably too young to ID then give the extra males and females to my aunt?

thanks

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Old January 23rd, 2007  
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Re: Breeding BN's anybody

yep that would be a good idea. I usually get 6 then sort them out when they mature. Four would probably do as good.
Carol
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Old January 23rd, 2007  
Fish Master
 
Re: Breeding BN's anybody

Ok will have to extra water changes then until I can sex them

Hey you got a new icon, no longer a butterfly, is that the first time you changed it
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Old January 23rd, 2007  
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Re: Breeding BN's anybody

yes, it's kind of small and you are the first to notice It's one of my long fin albino bristlenose fry.
Carol
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Old January 23rd, 2007  
Fish Master
 
Re: Breeding BN's anybody

LOL I think it's the first time you changed it since I registered.

Back on topic would a cave made out of two pieces of slate leaned against each other kinda tepee like be ok for them to breed in or do they need a flat top? Sorry for the questions but thanks for answering when you get the time.
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Old January 23rd, 2007  
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Re: Breeding BN's anybody

They like anything that has only one entrance. This makes it easy for the male to guard it.
Carol
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Old January 23rd, 2007  
Fish Master
 
Re: Breeding BN's anybody

gotcha, think I know all I need to know for now. Thanks
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Old January 23rd, 2007  
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Re: Breeding BN's anybody

Welcome
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