steveangela1

I have read pages and pages on how to raise these little guys.. she has many mini tanks ready to go when they are ready to separate... and is very much prepared and ready for it... for some reason every time she gets to 4 weeks right before she gets ready to separate the betta fry they die on her? I tested the water the last time, the only issue the ph was below 7.0 I told her before she did the breeding again to fix the ph... so she has the ph buffered now. She is doing her daily water changes, feeding them the inf. stuff right now, and they are swimming both vert and horiz. doing wonderfully.... about 1 and a half weeks old...
Please any suggestions are welcome! I want her to do well with these little guys! I want one of these babies!! She has a filter going w/ a stocking on top of it to keep the fry from going in it, they boy is already out and so is momma betta...
any tips on lights and using them too long, the temp stays constant at about 77....

Allie

From what I've been reading. It takes a lot to keep betta babies happy healthy. It may take a few tries before you have a successful batch.
try http://www.ultimatebettas.com/index.php?&CODE=01
The people on the forum are breeders some sell on aquabid.

COBettaCouple

Well, I'd recommend fish netting with a rubber band to make it secure over the filter intake tube, but while the fry are very young, it would be best to have a sponge filter instead.

I would advise against altering the pH. What is the kH and gH of her water?

Would it be possible to get pics of her setup and any information, no matter how small on her equipment, water chemistry, diet, conditioners/additives/vitamins, the area around the tank, the routine she has done with the previous batches, everything? Is it always the same pair that spawn?

I get the feeling this might be a combination of factors and/or something that's missing. We'd need all possible info to try to figure out what the key is, so she can change/add it and see them through.

steveangela1

She does have netting over the filter.. I don't know the kH and gH of the water the API kit that I have doesn't check that..
She buys some kind of betta conditioner? Also the liquid food for fry in a tube.
The area around the tank is a quiet, the water temp stays constant. She has my stepdad do the water changes in the evenings when he gets in from work, hes always been the "tank cleaner" even when they had african cichlids... so I know the times on the cleanings.. they used a white cup to do it to keep from getting babies out.. now I know they treat the water prior to putting it in the tank.. matching the temp? Im not so sure they do perfectly...

Yes it is the same set male/female... so it could just be that they have kull fry...
I wonder if I bought her a better set of male/female bettas if she would have better luck?
I plan to get some testing done on my water when I go to my lfs, I am wondering if my disolved o2 is too high, so I might get a sample of hers to check the hardness, etc... (speaking of which do the api people make those test that I can buy I think they do? I might just go ahead and get the hardness one at least)

COBettaCouple

API sells a kH/gH testing kit. It's not in the master kit, but we only started using it when we got the cichlids.

It's possible those 2 just produce fry with a genetic defect, more so if the female is over a year I think, or could be an unknown combination of factors.


Some changes that I'd recommend would be using Prime and Fish Protector for water conditioner.. Freshly hatched BBS for new fry, then a diet of crushed/crumbled cyclopeeze flakes and thawed, frozen bloodworms (diced tiny).. Vita-Chem and Garlic Guard/Garlic Boost may also help development and survival.

It's really hard to say for sure, that's all that comes to mind. Is there any way to get pictures of these fry as they grow?