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Old February 20th, 2009  
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Adding Tankmates with Previously Aggressive Gouramis? (long!)

Four months ago my boss gave me her old 20 gallon tank for my home office because she knew I wanted to upgrade my 1.5 gallon desk tank. It was a very nice gift and I've become a complete aqua-fanatic.

I have a planted tank (argentine swords, ferns, etc.) with ottos, gold barbs, and a kuhli loach along with two African dwarf frogs and assorted snails and shrimp.

I had my heart set on blue dwarf gouramis, but I could never find a good local source (they did not look healthy at all!). My choice was either to mail order or make a significant drive. After visiting my third local fish store and finding unhealthy dwarfs, I gave up and bought two female Three Spot gouramis, one larger than the other but both under 3" (heretofore named Big and Little respectively). I was thinking they would grow to 4" (not 6! Augh!) and would have similar temperaments like the dwarfs. Obviously, I was not thinking correctly!

Within two days of getting them, I noticed 'Big' was harassing the frogs, nipping at the other fish, and relentlessly chasing 'Little' to the point of Little having discoloration (red around fins!), torn fins, and great insecurity. I took Big out and put her into a tiny 1.5 gallon tank and ordered taller plants and a big piece of driftwood. In the meantime, Little recovered nicely and lived with all other species very peacefully! After my new tank décor came, I rearranged the tank and put Big back in.

Now Little is in charge and will chase Big around. *But* she is not nearly as aggressive and doesn't cause the physical harm Big did. Big spends her day on whatever side of the tank Little is not and no longer harasses the other species. There is enough foliage /décor where they can swim without always seeing each other.

So for now, my tank is relatively peaceful.

I have since found two fish stores - that are although quite a drive - seem to have a healthy stock of everything, including the dwarfs I have always wanted.

I asked the employee of one of those fish store's yesterday about getting more fish -specifically gouramis - with my situation. She said that more gouramis - of any kind - would help to keep the peace because the hierarchy would be spread out through a wider range of fish. She recommended honey gouramis. I am nervous to follow this through without more research - not realizing some gouramis are a lot different than others got me into this mess in the first place!

So to sum up this long story - will the peace in my tank last if I get other fish (I know you can't count on individual temperaments)? And would more gouramis help or hurt? Should I get M/F pairs? Should I give up on my dwarf dream fish as long as I have the 3 spots?

I need advice from some seasoned minds! I felt yesterday that she was too eager to sell me something (that could just be me) and I don't know what to do next. Each employee at each fish store had different advice for me and its all very jumbled and conflicted!

Help!
JeanetteRvetR is offline  
Old February 20th, 2009  
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welcome to fishlore!!!!!

she sounds way to eager to me also..and is giving you false info...I wouldnt get anymore gourami's for that tank..and im shocked that the ones you have tolerate eachother....usually 1-2 dwarfs for a 20 gal is ok...anymore is pushing it..the bigger gourami's, dont usually tolerate eachother ....your gourami's get to 4-5 inches each, gold barbs are 2-3 inches each, ottos about 1.5 inches each, and your kuhli at 3-4 inches each, you are probably maxed out for adding more...goodluck with whatever you choose and we would love to see some pics sometime
Shawnie is offline  
Old February 20th, 2009  
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DO NOT GET MORE GOURAMIS!!! That's terrible advice, even though she may have meant well. More gouramis in a 20 gallon will only increase aggression, and in my personal experience, 3 spots torture and chase the dwarfs endlessly because they are so much more aggressive. I'd also keep a close eye on the two you have...the 3 spot varieties tend to have attitudes that grow with age, so even though they're tolerating each other now, that may not continue to be the case. Best of luck with your tank!
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Old February 22nd, 2009  
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Thanks for the advice!

I feel responsible for Big and Little now that I have purchased them, but I do feel a little hemmed in because of them. Someone else mentioned bringing them back but I don't have a receipt and, I have had them for a while, so I doubt the chain store will swing for that. I also read on other forums with people 'swapping' fish with their LFS - is that common? I would think a reputable person wouldn't want to pick up every stray Tom, Dick, and Harry Fish!

I will try to find at least one of them a home with my other aqua-fanatic friends because I don't think their truce is permanent...

Thanks again! Glad I found you all before I made a bad decision!
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