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October 23rd, 2009
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| | Fish Lore Newbie | Betta in very bad shape, urgent advice needed My betta hadn't ate much the last 2 days, but I didn't really think much of it. Came home tonight, and he is lying on the bottom, barely moving at all. He has no outward signs of sickness, water is changed regularly, has a small filter, and at 76* presently. I did an immediate 50% or so water change, and added some Prime. I lifted him up to the surface a bit with the net to get some air, but he didn't really seem to care for it, so I let him out. Honestly, I will be incredibly surprised if he isn't dead by morning....I am out of ideas, if anyone has a suggestion, it appears I have nothing to lose at this point.  |
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October 23rd, 2009
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| | Moderator |  I'm so sorry your betta isn't feeling well.
Did you check your water parameters before changing the water?
How old is he?
You might want to out a tall soft plant in the tank so he can rest near the top.
Keep us up to date. |
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October 23rd, 2009
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| | Master Of Fish Poo! | What's his regular diet? It sounds like internal parasites might be the cause and I'd treat him with Clout or Parasite Clear. Also Garlic Guard, a couple drops of organic garlic juice (from minced garlic jars) or a little garlic power mixed well in some treated water added to the water might help. Vita-chem and Fish Protector too if you have them.
If you can float him in a cup in the tank that might help with going up for air. Thawed frozen bloodworms would be the best thing to feed him.
I wish you the best in treating him and hope he'll pull through. |
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October 23rd, 2009
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| | Fish Lore Newbie | I didn't check parameters, I moved my 29g to my new house this week, and used up the last of my test stuff keeping an eye on it. I don't have any good reason to suspect water quality, but obviously I can't know for sure without a test.... Dangit!
I'm not sure of his age, I have had him for about a year and half.
I already have a plant at the surface, which he sometimes sleeps in, but he seems to be more of a bottom sleeper than most bettas. I have him suspended in a net in the tank now, which is keeping him within an inch or so of the surface, so he can breathe more easily if he wants, and I can keep an eye on him.
Diet is freeze dried bloodworms, he refuses to eat anything else I try!
I have some garlic in the cupboard, I will give it a try. Last edited by Electricat; October 23rd, 2009 at 09:51 PM.
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October 24th, 2009
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| | Moderator | Hello Electricat and Welcome to Fish Lore. Sorry to hear your Betta isn't feeling well. Great advice and tips above.
Best wishes!
Ken |
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October 24th, 2009
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| | Fish Keeper | Poor baby betta, how is he this morning? |
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October 24th, 2009
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| | Fish Lore Newbie | I added some garlic juice to the tank last night. Betta was looking a bit better this morning, at least keeping himself upright. I just came home, and he is looking fairly good!! He is moving around the tank a little, and surfacing for air. Still not moving as much as normal, but much better than lying on his side on the bottom like last night!
I offered some food, he ate one mealworm....although it's far from his usual piggy appetite, I figure at least some interest in food is a good sign.
So......I'm not ready to declare him recovered, but the situation appears to be improving at least. I will get some parasite meds, since that seems the most likely problem, if my stupid work will let me off at a decent time someday soon, I am in the middle of my 4th 16 hr. day in a row.
For everyone who has offered advice and concern, me and fishy THANK YOU, y'all are great!!!  Last edited by Electricat; October 24th, 2009 at 05:08 PM.
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October 24th, 2009
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| | Fish Master | Just a small suggestion to maybe help him a bit. His metabolism will be a bit more active if you raise the temperature a degree or two. Actually I try to keep my guys at a temp between 78 and 80 degrees and it helps to keep them more active and their metabolism and digestive processes more stable. If he is needing some help with his appetite that may help him a bit. Sometimes they get a bit plugged up at a lower temperature. |
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October 24th, 2009
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| | Moderator | are you feeding him bloodworms or mealworms? Meal worms maybe a little hard to digest(especially while he's under the weather) as they have a exoskeleton that is hard for some fish to digest and pass. Sometimes fasting an ailing fish for a day or two is better than insisting he eat. this helps them clear their systems out. Sounds like he put himself on a fast day 
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October 25th, 2009
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| | Fish Lore Newbie | I will bump the temp a bit, I was thinking it might be a good idea but wasn't sure.
I mistyped on the worms in that post.....I am feeding bloodworms, not mealworms. |
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October 25th, 2009
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| | Moderator | Hello Electricat. I'm glad to hear you're seeing some signs of improvement. 
Ken |
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October 28th, 2009
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| | Fish Lore Newbie | I'm not sure what to make of this...........I bumped up the temp, and treated w/ Parasite Clear. Fishy is still lethargic, and has little to no appetite. I see no external signs of illness or injury. He doesn't look at death's door like I found him the other night, but he is still definately not back to normal. I don't know if I just need to give it time, or if there is something I am missing here? Input welcome and appreciated! |
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October 28th, 2009
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| | Fish Helper | I'm sorry to hear of your betta  I wish I could help, but I don't know anything about bettas. |
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October 28th, 2009
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| | Fish Master | Does he appear bloated at all? You could try feeding a pea for constipation... |
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October 28th, 2009
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| | Fish Addict | Quote:
Originally Posted by Red1313 Does he appear bloated at all? You could try feeding a pea for constipation... | i was thinking the same thing. especially since the freeze-dried bloodworms have a tendency to cause constipation. |
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October 29th, 2009
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| | Fish Helper | Sorry to hear 'bout your betta., pray that he gets well soon. |
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October 29th, 2009
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| | Fish Helper | Hope he's betta (excuse the pun) soon, poor little darling, maybe his lethargy is caused by his age. How old do you think he was when you purchased him? Was he very small or larger? This could be an indicator of his age.
I am also wondering, as crazy as this may sound, what was his personality like before this kicked in? Was he prone to moping and lethargy or was he previously an active and chirpy little character?
I have found sometimes that the bettas can suffer from fishy depression. One of my fish once moped around and his breathing even became a little laboured. I was terribly concerned. Then I discovered that something in our house had been moved and it was obscuring his view of the world around him. Once this was moved he returned to being a happy little fish. Odd things like this can affect bettas. Could something be making him sulky? |
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October 29th, 2009
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| | Moderator | Hello Electricat. Your Betta is displaying some signs of constipation. Here is a link you may find helpful: Aquarium Fish Constipation
Best wishes!
Ken |
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